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Old 07-20-2016, 02:45 AM   #11
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Great advice - thanks fellas!

I just got lost on a couple of threads by Nat_ster. Holy **** he did a lot and knew his stuff. Too bad he hasn't been on in a while because he's likely about 3 hours north of me and would be a great wealth of knowledge on saving time in the build.

Anyway - I removed 90% of the floor today - just have to unbolt the drivers seat and all that other crap to get the last bit out.
Once I got that far, I switched to grinding rivets off of the bumper trim so that I can hopefully get far enough to remove the rear of the bus tomorrow.

Crossing my fingers.

All I know is with the crappy paper mask I was using and fighting a cold - the rust I was inhaling from the hour I spent inside tearing out the floor wasn't good. Just gotta get to bed and heal up. Normally I would have had my much better nose and mouth sealing mask but I rode a friend's rocket to the farm to save fuel and put a smile on my face.
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Old 07-20-2016, 05:25 AM   #12
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For the $3000 the dealer was quoting you, I would hope it includes *THE ENTIRE AXLE*, completely refurbished. I can do a gear swap for under $1000, the includes having a local gear shop professionally install new ring and pinion.
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Old 07-21-2016, 12:54 AM   #13
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Sadly I don't think that was the case Brad. I'll keep an eye open as things progress but right now it's pretty low on the totem pole.

Spent most of the day grinding rivets all over the place, tearing out the dash that the UV rays made brittle, and fixing the 3 double pane windows that had broken slide tabs. Now I have 4 usable double pane windows for the 4 spots that I want to keep.

It's a lot of work but progress is progress. I sure like when others help, it makes the time pass a lot faster and 2 people are often 3x more effective than 1.

Time for cold meds and rest.
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Old 07-21-2016, 05:37 AM   #14
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Sadly I don't think that was the case Brad. I'll keep an eye open as things progress but right now it's pretty low on the totem pole.

Spent most of the day grinding rivets all over the place, tearing out the dash that the UV rays made brittle, and fixing the 3 double pane windows that had broken slide tabs. Now I have 4 usable double pane windows for the 4 spots that I want to keep.

It's a lot of work but progress is progress. I sure like when others help, it makes the time pass a lot faster and 2 people are often 3x more effective than 1.

Time for cold meds and rest.
I've found that having some company is really helpful.
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Old 07-29-2016, 11:52 PM   #15
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Great news - Found a turbo and all large parts that I need for the bus (minus gaskets, boost gauge and pyro gauge). Once that is all installed I plan on setting the wastegate to 6-8psi max and then slowly turning up the IDI pump but staying well within the no smoke zone. Fuel economy will be more important than power, especially because it won't make big power regardless and I don't want to burn the trans up.

After doing a ton of research on what was the best option for stopping and preventing rust - I ordered a Gallon of Rust Bullet Metal Blast and a Gallon of Rust Bullet Automotive from a company in Edmonton called On Point Distribution. The guy was extremely helpful and it was at my front door the next day. Definitely recommend him for his service.

After much reading I now have a better understanding of the Dayton wheels that the bus has, and will be checking on the alignments of all the wheels after I go through it thoroughly on the mechanical aspects.

Next step is to remove the driver seat and rest of the floor, remove the back of the bus and then prep the floor properly. Once all the floor is done, I'm thinking I will use bedliner on the flat deck where the toys go - to protect from carbide's on ski's, etc.

It's been Slow progress lately but progress nevertheless.
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Old 07-30-2016, 01:10 PM   #16
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Hey brother, I got the same bus in Calgary...but 36 passanger 7.3L at545. I say keep the tranny and everything stock....unless you are going to get a split rearend. Check out old farm grain hauling trucks...but the hi gearing is terrible and needs customization. This also involves a possible airpump install for the engine. If you are going skidooing and all that...a lower rear end is good for bush wacking and hilly roads with a load on. Just straight higher gears and it won't go up hills so well. Tire chains wouldn't be a bad idea either. I keep mine at 80kph on the highway for max fuel efficiency. After about 2200 rpm she really gobbles the fuel!
I also put a wood stove in mine. I installed it on the wheel well since its central and sort of a tight spot to do anything anyways...
I wish I had bought a stove with a hot water saddle.
I made a heat shield from an old stove I found in the alley. I used double insulated 6" chimney....1 piece of 6 foot, I do believe. I screwed the collar to my stove top and clamped it in. It goes straight up through the roof to minimise the fire hazard. Works great. I used dryer sheet metal (pre enamelled) to fill in the windows. I also put 1.5" Styrofoam on the floor. If you want you can swing by and take a look. James 902 403 6012
PS I tried to throw in some pics but it wouldn't let me!!
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Old 08-01-2016, 09:10 PM   #17
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Awesome James, I just sent you a text - would love to take a look at what you've done! Yours is the newer electronic 7.3 so it would likely be the Powerstroke engine. Either way, having a turbo with low boost will definitely help the fuel economy and power in the mountains as the NA engines will have trouble filling the cylinders and therefor just be dumping the fuel out the back or rolling coal as the kids call it.

Yesterday I was out working on it for a couple hours. Removed the drivers seat and tore up the floor around there as well. Started grinding rivets to remove the roof panels - I've got 6 sections to cut out at 85 rivets a piece.

Pulled one section and that crap insulation was junk so it's all coming out and spray foam will replace everywhere but above the floor.

Headed to sit down and plan out the build step by step like I did with my basement suite so that it's done as efficiently as I can. Man I wish I had an acreage within 10-15 mins of me so I could work on it a lot more often.

Oh and hoping to go see a buddy who is building a fully self sufficient off grid tiny home to gain ideas as well.
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Old 08-13-2016, 03:57 PM   #18
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WARNING!!

Even when using eye protection while grinding rivets on a bus - it IS very possible to get a chunk of steel ricochet into your eye causing great pain and requiring surgery to get it out.

I've got most of the interior panels - roof and sides stripped out and the gross pink insulation out. Still have a lot of that to do and it takes FOREVER to remove.

Even with 2 cute women who work extremely hard (lucky guy right? ), it's been a long process to get this far. Thankfully they are both motivating people naturally as there were many days where I might have said eff it.
Big thanks to the tip about using a 60-80 grit flap wheel as it is MUCH faster than a cutting disc and an air chisel, and leaves a much nicer result.

As my eye heals up, I'll be taking the turbo apart to check if it needs to be rebuilt before the install, and planning the next step of demolition on the bus.

What has everyone done with all of the wiring by the cockpit while removing all of the insulation behind that area to replace with spray foam? I might have to get super big zip ties and hang it from the roof in the interim.
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Old 08-14-2016, 10:27 AM   #19
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Hey brother, I got the same bus in Calgary...but 36 passanger 7.3L at545. I say keep the tranny and everything stock....unless you are going to get a split rearend. Check out old farm grain hauling trucks...but the hi gearing is terrible and needs customization. This also involves a possible airpump install for the engine. If you are going skidooing and all that...a lower rear end is good for bush wacking and hilly roads with a load on. Just straight higher gears and it won't go up hills so well. Tire chains wouldn't be a bad idea either. I keep mine at 80kph on the highway for max fuel efficiency. After about 2200 rpm she really gobbles the fuel!
I also put a wood stove in mine. I installed it on the wheel well since its central and sort of a tight spot to do anything anyways...
I wish I had bought a stove with a hot water saddle.
I made a heat shield from an old stove I found in the alley. I used double insulated 6" chimney....1 piece of 6 foot, I do believe. I screwed the collar to my stove top and clamped it in. It goes straight up through the roof to minimise the fire hazard. Works great. I used dryer sheet metal (pre enamelled) to fill in the windows. I also put 1.5" Styrofoam on the floor. If you want you can swing by and take a look. James 902 403 6012
PS I tried to throw in some pics but it wouldn't let me!!

Random question but where did you guys get your buses? Just off kijiji? Im fairly certain there's some sort of bus auction in this province somewhere but I cant seem to find it anywhere....(other than Ritchie Bros)

PS Im in Olds!! Lots of Albertans on here!
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Old 08-14-2016, 09:09 PM   #20
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Hey Meldy, you are quite close! One of the girls that helps is from Rocky Mtn House, so she travels quite a ways. I wouldn't be surprised if she bought a bus as soon as mine is done and we build a second one.

I was going to call Southland to get mine, but while I was waiting for their buses to come available (right now would probably be the best time of the year) I found one on kijiji that fit the bill and I went out to look at it. With such low km's on it and the low price, I took it.

I might still call the lady this week and see if there are any other buses that I can scavenge future needed parts from as I am told that they sell them only to scrapyards.

I'd be excited if I found a rear end that was geared around 4.44, or a MT643 trans. Chances are on this bus that I'll learn all of the things I like and don't and then one day make a future bus that is all that I'll ever want.

Today I finished taking the turbo right down to each individual components and everything looks good so once I have the rebuild kit in my hands - it should be good for another 200,000 km.
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