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Old 08-20-2011, 09:12 AM   #11
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Get a good air chisel and a rivet removal bit for it.
Have you actually tried this on a bus? My experience was, the rivet is much harder than the bus, and all it did was tear the rivet out leaving a bigger hole.
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Old 08-20-2011, 10:25 AM   #12
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The cleanest way to shave rivets...is with a "rivet shaver". Used one years ago on my old BB. Won't damage the sheet metal and leaves the hole clean and ready to re-use. Some are made for aluminum and others for steel. Here is an example...

http://www.hpwetmore.com/Rivet-Shave...te-Drills.html
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Old 08-20-2011, 11:43 AM   #13
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Get a good air chisel and a rivet removal bit for it.
Have you actually tried this on a bus? My experience was, the rivet is much harder than the bus, and all it did was tear the rivet out leaving a bigger hole.
Yes, I have removed hundreds of rivets from my bus. I raised the roof and removed all the interior panels that way. At least on mine ('89 bluebird) it works well. It just cuts the rivets off, which can then be easily punched back through. You'll need an air chisel if you're installing any rivets too.

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Old 08-20-2011, 07:21 PM   #14
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Nice job! Do you have any idea for the layout yet?
Thanks : )
We pretty much have the whole project mapped out. Since we waited so long to begin the project we have had three years to dream up the whole thing! We had 3D models on our old computer but unfortunately it was stolen so we don't have any pictures to show the vision. From the back on the drivers side will be the bedroom, the kitchen counter a wood stove and then the couch. On the passenger side will be the bedroom, a closet, the bathroom, a pantry and then the dinette.
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Old 08-20-2011, 07:40 PM   #15
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Get a good air chisel and a rivet removal bit for it.
Have you actually tried this on a bus? My experience was, the rivet is much harder than the bus, and all it did was tear the rivet out leaving a bigger hole.
Yes, I have removed hundreds of rivets from my bus. I raised the roof and removed all the interior panels that way. At least on mine ('89 bluebird) it works well. It just cuts the rivets off, which can then be easily punched back through. You'll need an air chisel if you're installing any rivets too.

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Both the air chisel you linked and the Rivet Shaver tango suggested look like excellent options. We actually just cut the rivets in half with the grinder and then went along with a hammer and a chisel knocking them off. This worked really well for us. At this stage we are trying to work with the tools we have and avoid buying one time use tools.

Here's our progress today:
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Old 08-21-2011, 09:53 AM   #16
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Lookin' good guys! --- Too bad you are so far away, I have a really nice wood stove that I just took out of my '46. Just wish I had room for it in the new floorplan. Can't even imagine what shipping one would cost.
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Old 08-21-2011, 10:50 PM   #17
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Lookin' good guys! --- Too bad you are so far away, I have a really nice wood stove that I just took out of my '46. Just wish I had room for it in the new floorplan. Can't even imagine what shipping one would cost.
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Wow shipping would be unbelievable for sure! : )

Today we managed to finish removing the interior rivets, take out the three heaters and finish stripping the floor. Tomorrow we will be moving onto removing the windows and the interior sheet metal and preparing for the roof raise.
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Old 08-23-2011, 07:50 PM   #18
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Looks like a great bus, mind if I asked why you just didn't drive the bus to its new home? I as well did a roof raise, not that big of a deal but plan a head for un seen problems... where in Canada are you guys. I am from seattle and wondering how close you are to that. good luck with the project as I will be following your progress.

and again welcome to the madness.

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Old 08-23-2011, 08:46 PM   #19
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"This is really an ideal location for us as it has ample space, is close to home, and comes with the added perks of home made italian meals and access to a swimming pool!"

Ouch! You really know how to hurt a guy! As if I didn't already have enough issues with the sweat-box, scum hole I'm working in. All that and home made Italian too!? No more sympathy for you guys ! LOL

BTW...just how far are you raising the roof? I took my old Bird up 19 inches and it really wasn't that big a chore. Just plan carefully and keep safety in mind. Once free, you don't want it coming down with a crash. One more thing to pass on...I spoke with a Blue Bird tech in Georgia when I was contemplating my raise and he suggested (very strongly) that I alternate the position of the cuts to avoid creating a "weak line". Seemed to make sense, especially considering the source. I cut one at the base of a window and the next at the top. And I wound up buying repair roof ribs that I cut to size to lay over the inch and a half square tube that slid inside the existing ribs. Turned out very stout. And finally, regarding raising...make sure to tack-weld or otherwise attach a series of cross braces from side to side in a number of places both on the top and the lower segments of the body before you cut them all free. Otherwise it will tweak all out of shape before you can get the pretty, new, extended ribs attached (not a good thing and a bear to correct later).

Anyhow, that my $1.87's worth for now ( that's a real $.02 cents in 2011 dollars ).
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Looks like a great bus, mind if I asked why you just didn't drive the bus to its new home? I as well did a roof raise, not that big of a deal but plan a head for un seen problems... where in Canada are you guys. I am from seattle and wondering how close you are to that. good luck with the project as I will be following your progress.

and again welcome to the madness.

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Thanks dogfinn : )

We decided to have the bus towed for insurance purposes. This way we did not have to get plates/temporary insurance, so when we have completed the conversion we will be able to register it as an RV and get the insurance to fit that.

We are in St.Catharines, Ontario across the bridge from buffalo, NY so quite a way from Seattle.


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"This is really an ideal location for us as it has ample space, is close to home, and comes with the added perks of home made italian meals and access to a swimming pool!"

Ouch! You really know how to hurt a guy! As if I didn't already have enough issues with the sweat-box, scum hole I'm working in. All that and home made Italian too!? No more sympathy for you guys ! LOL

BTW...just how far are you raising the roof? I took my old Bird up 19 inches and it really wasn't that big a chore. Just plan carefully and keep safety in mind. Once free, you don't want it coming down with a crash. One more thing to pass on...I spoke with a Blue Bird tech in Georgia when I was contemplating my raise and he suggested (very strongly) that I alternate the position of the cuts to avoid creating a "weak line". Seemed to make sense, especially considering the source. I cut one at the base of a window and the next at the top. And I wound up buying repair roof ribs that I cut to size to lay over the inch and a half square tube that slid inside the existing ribs. Turned out very stout. And finally, regarding raising...make sure to tack-weld or otherwise attach a series of cross braces from side to side in a number of places both on the top and the lower segments of the body before you cut them all free. Otherwise it will tweak all out of shape before you can get the pretty, new, extended ribs attached (not a good thing and a bear to correct later).

Anyhow, that my $1.87's worth for now ( that's a real $.02 cents in 2011 dollars ).
Hi Tango : ).
No question we are so lucky with our location!

We are planning on 28" but have not completely decided yet. Alex is fairly tall so we want to go as high as we can without limiting where we can go with the bus (woods etc.). We will definitely be safe when raising the roof, we have been taking our time getting to this step and planning it out. We bought four farm jacks that we will be using and it will be supported by guides. We are pretty much using the exact same method as Elliot Naess did on Millicent for the roof raise. (see: The Millicent Chronicles; two foot roof raise, big tailgate)

Thank you for the advice on the roof raise we will be bracing the roof, it is especially important for us because the front cap is staying and we will be making a slanted filler piece.

We follow both your conversion and dogfinn's and are happy to get your advice!
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