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02-19-2008, 07:22 PM
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#41
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: near flint michigan
Posts: 2,657
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Re: Okie All American
Quote:
Originally Posted by Elliot Naess
About those slide-out rooms.... When they came on the market, I said to myself that it would not be long before I saw one going down the road in the extended position, the mechanism hopelessly jammed. And I was right. Saw one just the other day; looked to be about half way or two thirds out. Seems to me, those slide-outs constitute a gross violation of the Keep-It-Simple concept.
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but where's your sense of adventure??
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Quis custodiet ipsos custodes (who will watch the watchmen?)
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02-19-2008, 07:45 PM
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#42
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Clearlake, Northern California
Posts: 2,505
Year: 1992
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: TC-2000 Frt Eng, Tranny:MT643
Engine: 5,9 Cummins
Rated Cap: 84
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Re: Okie All American
Adventure? Oh, no... no, I steer clear of that sort of thing.
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02-19-2008, 10:25 PM
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#43
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Skoolie
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 226
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Re: Okie All American
Keeping it simple is for those with more sense that I. And yes, I am ready to do a side slide. And yes, my slide has been a LOT of work, mostly because of my sheer LACK of intelligence. Lapeer....that BBQ offer for you and your hydraulic cylinders still stands. Oh and bring your smarts.
You're ready to raise roof, Tony! When I was a framing contractor it was always my favorite part. Wish I could be there.
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02-24-2008, 03:08 PM
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#44
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Skoolie
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Oklahoma
Posts: 119
Year: 1990
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: All American RE
Engine: Cummins 8.3
Rated Cap: 84
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Re: Okie All American
Yesterday I removed the remaining side wall panels, including the worst of all - the left rear one. It was a small piece (about 3 sq ft) but had no fewer than 53 rivets holding it in place - many in corners and difficult to get at. I also took off the folding “SCHOOL BUS” signs from the top front and rear of the bus.
I took the rear heater loose so that I could get a better look at the plumbing. I need to get a coupler for a 1?ID hose so I can remove the heater and splice the water line back together. That will leave the front heater functional until I start building out the interior.
I added a valve and a fitting to the “wet” tank in the compressed air system. This allows me to charge the system from a standard air hose connected to my electric air compressor. That way, it can be used for testing, operating the door, etc without running the engine.
I connected up a hose and charged the system up to around 110psi and drove the bus out to the mailbox and back to see how the compressor behaved. I left it running for a while - even opened drain valves, etc to dump air, but the engine compressor kept up just fine. I am not sure what had caused the previous problem (it would only charge to 60psi) but I think it may have been condensation freezing in a valve or something like that. I’ll keep an eye on it in the future.
The only remaining demolition work to be done for now is to remove the flooring beneath the heater, the inner wall above the engine box, the ceiling wiring harness, and the side windows. I’ll take out the windows right before doing the roof raise. I’ll be glad to see them go - they are leaky and I am now convinced (from the rain the last few days) that they are the primary source of water in the flooring.
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02-28-2008, 10:13 PM
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#45
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Skoolie
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 226
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Re: Okie All American
Time for something to go up? Like a roof? I'm ready to see it. Maybe I'll drive over and pick up Elliot and we'll come by.
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03-01-2008, 10:56 PM
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#46
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Skoolie
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Oklahoma
Posts: 119
Year: 1990
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: All American RE
Engine: Cummins 8.3
Rated Cap: 84
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Re: Okie All American
It's real close to time. You guys head on over!
Today I took the rear heater out and the rest of the floor under it. I also cleaned things up with a shop vac. Looks a lot better now.
Next I need to do some calculations and order some metal (this week I hope). I want to try to get everything ready and have it pretty well thought through. The friend who is helping me with it has a really nice shop and all the equipment we'll need, but he's super busy and his shop is almost 2 hrs drive from here. So I don't want to waste his time. I'm currently reading back through all the accounts of roof raisings in the forum trying to get my head around as much detail as I can. Fortunately he's done this kind of stuff before so that will help immensely.
I can't wait to see it go up!
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03-07-2008, 12:39 PM
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#47
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Skoolie
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Oklahoma
Posts: 119
Year: 1990
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: All American RE
Engine: Cummins 8.3
Rated Cap: 84
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Re: Okie All American
Last night, my son and I taped out the plans on the floor of the bus. I had read about others doing that and thought it was a great idea to help visualize the size and positioning of stuff in the bus. Here's a photo:
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03-08-2008, 10:47 PM
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#48
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Skoolie
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 226
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Re: Okie All American
I have to admit, Tony. I'm sitting on pins and needles waiting for the destructionconstruction to begin and things to extend skyward. I can't imagine how you feel. The layout looks great! Onward!
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03-12-2008, 12:22 AM
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#49
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Skoolie
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Oklahoma
Posts: 119
Year: 1990
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: All American RE
Engine: Cummins 8.3
Rated Cap: 84
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Re: Okie All American
I've been distracted by my day job (!) lately and the prep for roof raising is suffering...
But in the mean time, I do have a couple of questions for you mechanical gurus here. I have a couple of valve or sensors that are disconnected (electrically) in the engine compartment and I'd like to find out what they were meant to do. Here are photos:
This one is on the top coolant line from the engine block to the radiator. Could it be a valve?
The second is on a box joining what I am pretty sure are hydraulic lines:
Any ideas that anyone might have would be greatly appreciated! I am particularly wondering if the water line component could have something to do with my engine heating problems.
thx alot!! - Tony
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03-12-2008, 02:42 AM
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#50
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Whidbey Island, WA.
Posts: 1,109
Year: 1984
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: All American
Engine: 3208 na boat anchor
Rated Cap: 2
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Re: Okie All American
First pic would be a coolant temp sensor from engine--possibly a hi-temp shutdown. The second pic looks to be a pressure sensor for whatevere hydraulic circuit its in.
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03-13-2008, 03:10 PM
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#51
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: downriver, detroit mi
Posts: 794
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Re: Okie All American
first pic is a temp sensor or temp activated switch, where do the wires go? the second looks like a solinoid coil to activate a spool valve, again where do the wires go and what is on the back side of the block that the hoses go to? also where do the hydraulic hoses go?
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04-28-2009, 11:50 AM
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#52
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 362
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Re: Okie All American
dentarthurdent, how's your conversion coming along? Did you get your roof raised yet?
jim
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05-10-2013, 03:26 PM
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#53
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Roswell, NM
Posts: 3,588
Year: 1986
Coachwork: BlueBird
Chassis: 40 ft All American FE
Engine: 8.2LTA Fuel Pincher DD V8
Rated Cap: 89
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Re: Okie All American
If you look at the side bar with his info in it, you will see a little circle (world) that if you click on it, it will take you to his webpage. Apparently Aug 2008 was the last time the website had info posted on it. According to his user stats (click on his user name) "Last visited: Thu May 20, 2010 10:49 am" . This is probably another milk carton person.
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05-15-2013, 07:03 PM
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#54
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Montana
Posts: 1,626
Year: 1995
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: All-American R/E
Engine: 8.3 Cummins
Rated Cap: 72
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Re: Okie All American
The hydraulic one is for the radiator fan. Think clutch fan.
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