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Old 11-02-2013, 01:32 PM   #11
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what kind of insulation is this?

Decided to pull the insulation too - way easy and it looks to be in fine condition... but what is it?

Now, I know it should be fiberglass... but it doesn't look like the fiberglass I'm used to. It's totally white (not pink or yellowed), and it is not "piecing apart" hardly at all. Here's the link to my photobucket two photos of this insulation:
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Am I crazy? Could this be cotton batt? Skeptically hopeful...
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Old 11-03-2013, 05:51 PM   #12
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Put a match to a tuft of that insulation, If it melts it's probably some kind of plastic. If it burns it could be cotton. If nothing happens it's likely glass.

The stuff in your picture looks like some mattress batting I found a while back. It was some kind of plastic and a bear to cut with a fresh box cutter blade.
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Old 11-03-2013, 08:28 PM   #13
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Put a match to a tuft of that insulation, If it melts it's probably some kind of plastic. If it burns it could be cotton. If nothing happens it's likely glass.

The stuff in your picture looks like some mattress batting I found a while back. It was some kind of plastic and a bear to cut with a fresh box cutter blade.
Nice call - Any excuse to light some stuff on fire! So, it did something in between melting and disappearing when I put a flame to it. It just vanishes, but leaves a tiny melt on the side it was closest to. pretty cool actually. It may be plastic or it may also be some sort of cotton fiber doused with a ton of flame retardant. (Took a sample to both Lowes and Camping World and neither had ever seen anything like it or could identify it)

Here's a sketchup of my "final" layout - still open to recommendations!

The idea is that clothing storage will be under that "couch" that's in front of the bed. And then a desk will pull out on sliders from behind where the "back" of the couch is. Kind of weird to describe but I'll shoot a video when it's all said and done to show what I'm talking about.


Got most of the rubber floor out this weekend, pulled all that insulation out, got the small junk out of the way like the medic kits, hand rail, fire extinguisher, and then had a ton of fun with the walls that are under the windows. Not a huge fan of the cut wheel (I know, I know - some of you will hang me out to dry for saying that) so I used metal scissors and got 4 or 5 good cuts right up close to the window. Then I had enough to get my hand on, and was able to "tear" the rest of way parallel to the window. It's really not a big deal... just tearing metal with my bare hands
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Old 11-03-2013, 09:17 PM   #14
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Got most of the rubber floor out this weekend, pulled all that insulation out, got the small junk out of the way like the medic kits, hand rail, fire extinguisher, and then had a ton of fun with the walls that are under the windows. Not a huge fan of the cut wheel (I know, I know - some of you will hang me out to dry for saying that) so I used metal scissors and got 4 or 5 good cuts right up close to the window. Then I had enough to get my hand on, and was able to "tear" the rest of way parallel to the window. It's really not a big deal... just tearing metal with my bare hands



I'm finding that a big chisel with a 8 pound hammer has been the fastest for me averaging about 3 swings per rivet
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Old 11-04-2013, 01:44 PM   #15
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Welcome to the mayhem! --- Having a list is a great start. A roof raise sounds more daunting than it really is. My ex-wife & I did a 19" raise on a 40' BBAA in a week just working evenings (had nothing to do with the divorce, that came much later BTW). Numerous ways to go about it and with a little searching & reading here you'll likely see most of them. One thing that many people don't do but is a must...is to cross brace both the cut free and the remaining structures to keep them stable prior to cutting anything loose. Just tack welding some steel tube in place will do but do it about every 4-6 feet minimum. Otherwise, as soon as you cut a roof section free it (and everything else) will torque out of shape and they will never fit back together again smoothly.
I made sure I was on level ground with a level bus and used two plumb bobs to check if my roof torqued. The rear went out 1/4", but when I welded the tubing in, it pulled it back square.

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1.)...it is best to alternate the location of the cut from window to window. That way you avoid a straight run "weak line". I cut one at the top and the next at the bottom of each window. No big deal.
Since I welded the tubing from top to bottom in the U-chanel, I figure I won't have a weak line. The tubing is stronger than the u-chanel, I welded in the chanel not along where it was cut. Maybe I'm fooling myself, but I made a promise not to roll the bus to test it.
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Awww..no roll test!?
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Having rolled over a box truck trying to avoid a moron on a phone, you do NOT want to roll a bus!!!!

Sounds like you have a great project and a definite direction you want to go. I'm kind of making it up as I go along because I am currently living in it! so it is a 'fluid' plan, as they say.

I bought my bus back when I was 21. Crazy times! hope your's takes less time than mine to complete, I'm 33 now!
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Having rolled over a box truck trying to avoid a moron on a phone, you do NOT want to roll a bus!!!!

Sounds like you have a great project and a definite direction you want to go. I'm kind of making it up as I go along because I am currently living in it! so it is a 'fluid' plan, as they say.

I bought my bus back when I was 21. Crazy times! hope your's takes less time than mine to complete, I'm 33 now!
Definitely NOT trying to roll this puppy. To that extent - anyone have any kind of calculation or formula based on weight, height and wheelbase etc? Not critical but would be nice to know.

Also, what kind of sheet metal did y'all use to "skin" the bus after you raised it? Ideas on where to source it?

For the "Roof/Hell Raising Party" I've decided to use 2 forklifts borrowed for the day from neighboring companies. Thinking one on each side, and then tow/rachet straps on the interior from one side to the other as a way to keep the uchannel from warping out of shape too much. Once I get a spec on that metal, it's go time baby!
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I used 18 GA that is what my walls are made of, My roof itself is 16 GA. I have seem people use 20 GA also. I got my steel from a local welding company that cut it to size for me.
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