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Old 03-09-2013, 05:42 PM   #1
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welcome another ontario person, good see more of us with skoolies where abouts are you?
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Old 03-09-2013, 07:15 PM   #2
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Welcome to the forum. You have a very nice platform to build on, have fun in the conversion...and every conversion project should have its four-legged Supervisor
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Old 03-09-2013, 10:08 PM   #3
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Looks good. What did you use for paneling?
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Old 03-16-2013, 01:27 PM   #4
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Well... Another week gone by and I got didley sqwat done.
Although it was mild out for a few days it was raining and windy and now it's back to the -10*C with a low of -22*C tonight.

Sooooo, I'v been doing a lot of thinking.
That can be a dangerous and expensive thing to do!

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I'm going to put some ideas out here and see what you guys think of them.
Now I picked up a 60 gallon hot water tank that I was planing on using as a fresh water holding tank and I also have a 30 gallon which I was thinking of using for the shower. No hot and cold, just warm the water to a comfy temp and jump in. (why waste hydro to get the water hotter than it needs to be just to cool it off right)?
Need hotter water for the dishes? boil a kettle right?
for fulltiming in? That could get old really fast, especially in winter. Suggest slapping a little 6 gallon water heater in there. It is possible to take a nice shower with a 6 gallon water heater, depending on how icy cold your incoming water is. We have an electric 10 gallon home style tank that we turn on/off as needed. We started doing this after the first month when our power use skyrocketed. But now David is thinking someone misread the meter. All I know is I can turn the thing on and take a 10+ minute shower around 7 - 8PM. Turn it off and the well insulated tank still has warm water in it the next morning when David gets up shortly before I normally get home at 8:30AM. Turning the heater on/off as needed keeps our power use down. While our electric is included in our site rent for now, it's not like that in all parks for long-term monthly stays. Learning to keep our power use low on a daily basis now will create power saving habits that will benefit us later.

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I have four plastic 15 gallon barrels that I was thinking of mounting underneath for holding the waste-water. So a 60 gallon to 60 gallon holding = no overflow if I always empty one while filling the other.
you still need the overflow as it doubles as a vent for the air to escape while the tanks fill. We have our fresh tank set up with a float valve to where the filtered water flows in when the water level drops to a certain point and shuts off when it reaches "full". We stay hooked up to water all the time. This set up will allow us to not have to babysit the fresh tank while filling it when we travel (wallydock for up to 3 nights, stop in full hookup site one night to dump black & grey tanks and fill fresh tank overnight while we sleep... we are lazy) We only have a single 30 gallon tank for now. We will add another 30 gallon tank this summer. We plan on traveling with only one 30 gallon tank filled and will place a shut off valve between the two tanks.

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So I should find myself a (60 gallon???) for black holding.... or is that overkill?
I want to use an RV toilet so I won't be using a gallon or more every flush.
we have about 25 gallons plus our vanity sink is plumbed into the black tank to make sure we get enough water in it. We have a vintage Mansfield Traveler 910... it uses water in pints not gallons. Since "best practices" indicate that you dump a black tank only when full or almost full (so rush of outgoing water sucks the tank empty), you need to decide if 60 gallons is okay with you. For us, 25 gallons is plenty for up to 3 nights (our "base" we use for everything)

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Now for the levels in the tanks... the 60 gallon hot water tank that I'll be using for fresh water holding... I'll use a clear tube that's hooked up top and bottom to the tank, no problem.
The four 15 gallon barrels for the grey water are a somewhat semi-transparent white plastic so if I peek under the bus every once in a while I will be able to see no problem.
What do I do for the black??? And no I don't really want to see it so what's another way to monitor the level that isn't going to get all plugged up?
First off... Grey water has "debris" in it. You may want to use the 60 gallon tank for the grey and the translucent multiple tanks for the fresh. Otherwise you may have a problem with the multiple grey tanks not flushing out all the debris. Grey tanks get very nasty over time.

For us, the auto fill works great for the fresh tanks. When we are on hookups, it's always filling unless it is full (our filters lower our water flow dramatically) or I suck the fresh tank dry taking a shower (it sputters... our Shurflo 2088 Classic can run dry with no problems. On full hookups, we bypass the grey holding tank and drain all grey water directly into the sewer drain. When not on hookups... that's why your grey tank is larger than your fresh tank. Our grey tank is only a few gallons larger than the single fresh (to allow for extra "liquids" (partial store bought drinks dumped down the sink, liquids from canned veggies, etc). This is why we will travel with only a single 30 gallon fresh tank filled. On the black tank... the toilet will "burp" when you flush once it fills to a certain point. That "certain point" is the down pipe that goes from the toilet into the tank. It extends X inches into your black tank. Our drop pipe extends into the tank itself by 2 to 3 inches. So when the fluid gets to the bottom of the pipe it will start burping when you flush. The fuller it gets, the bigger the burp. Don't be leaning over the toilet if has started burping. We usually dump the next morning if it starts burping at night. As for WHY 25 gallon black tank... It's what we bought (used) and the blue boy tote tank we have holds 32 gallons. Many public parks do not have sewer hookups at the site. The ones that do only tend to have a limited number. Doing a partial dump of grey isn't all that bad. Doing a partial dump on a black tank is not a good idea. Nor is hauling a really full tote tank. If you have not bought a tote tank, get a 4 wheeled one. My two wheeler gets very heavy when full and is rough to shift and tip up on end to dump when filled to the max.

Can't really tell you what to do, only what we have done. It's up to you to pick out things that you think will work for you.
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Old 03-28-2013, 07:30 PM   #5
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Lookin' good so far!

Is that a water heater in the back corner?
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Old 03-29-2013, 10:17 AM   #6
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You're moving right along, and I love the "just because" horns
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Old 03-29-2013, 10:36 AM   #7
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The 60 gallon is going to be my fresh water holding tank and the 30 gallon is for the hot water. I'll just fire up the generator a bit before I want to take a shower.
Very clever idea!
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Old 03-29-2013, 01:02 PM   #8
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You are going to do well under canine supervision. In his little dog brain he thinks that this is all being done for him. Well and it is...
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Old 03-30-2013, 07:56 AM   #9
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We love that rustic floor,are going to poly then sand and re poly? or is it slippers only while in bus?
Our floor is not bare foot friendly either...due to cutoff bolts that havent been knocked thru the floor
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Old 03-31-2013, 09:25 AM   #10
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Going to steal this thread for a moment cause it looks like your at a point in your build where this question would come up?

Do you put all your plumbing access through the floor first then put in the flooring or the other way around? Not sure there is a wrong way but I know in the world of car restoration you do things in a certain order or you will do them over again and will end up costing more money. Your thoughts would be appreciated


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