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Old 04-14-2013, 10:19 AM   #21
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Re: Out with the old, in with the new 7 window

Our Eagle did the same to my Dad (face full of smoke) when we first brought it home. We took it to a good diesel mechanic and he adjusted the fuel injectors. There again, it had sat for a while and the mechanic said it just needed to be adjusted and run. He said diesels just like to run. It may just really need to get good and hot a few times, burn off the cobwebs so to speak. I would find a good diesel mechanic and let him look at it before you get too far into it.
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Old 04-14-2013, 06:50 PM   #22
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I know I should take it to a mechanic (at least in the beginning) but I do intend on working on it myself. I have done so with all other vehicles, even if maintenance is required on the side of the road (I always travel with ALL my tools). I hope to get some type of a Chilton for this bus. I looked for one for my last bus and found it difficult or expensive. I would like to do a tuneup and fluid swap where I can. The guy I bought it from gave me the new electrical feeds (plastic and brittle) for the glow plugs.
Last night I tried to shut all the windows and ran into a problem with one... don't hammer off the rivets with the windows down!! (I got it out eventually but it was a pain)



Also, painted and calked some holes in the floor. Ended up just doing areas I wanted to build on for now.



Did a shelf with wide lumber. All the materials are reused from my other bus or from other projects.

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Old 04-14-2013, 07:06 PM   #23
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Where is this lift located, I would be interested if you would like to donate it to someone that could use it and you are not too far away.
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Old 04-15-2013, 09:08 AM   #24
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I dislike rivets. I have used them to reinstall ceiling panels, but I much prefer sheet metal screws. Sure there are they naysayers that screws will come loose. Never an issue for me. Many buses are built with screws instead of rivets.
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Old 04-15-2013, 09:44 AM   #25
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Just want to put this out there if anyone has any ideas...
As you may have read previously: I have a 1992 7.3l non-turbo international 7 window carpenter.
So, we drove it home (it is was a 170 mile trip) and there were three vehicles always in this order: First = lil buck (slow Toyota pick-up, 55 max usually), Second= the bus, Third = Adam's truck (Mazda pick-up)..
When lil buck was going slowly (55mph) on an Ozark mountain down hill, and the bus had to let off the gas to slow and match pace with lil buck.. Adam got a huge plume of black, diesel smelling, smoke in the face. And, the bus got horrible gas mileage.
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Is there a fuel return delivery problem, and fuel dumps out the exhaust??? The folks we bought it from had to change the fuel pump in the tank. It wouldn't stay running past the fuel dumped into the filters.
{also, very curious about the "throttle" pull... could it have been in the wrong position or something? When it is depressed it seems to be idling too low. And the guy we bought it from drove it with it completely pulled outward so it was left the same, i think.}
Thanks for the input, I'm a newbie when it comes to diesels that's for sure.
I have the same engine in my pickup truck. So what exactly was the mpg? Aside from poor fuel economy, is it also running rough? Hard starting? You have mechanical injectors which are fed by a rotary injection pump. I would pull the injectors, take them apart, clean them up, reassemble, and then take them to a shop to get them tested as the first step. This is a relatively easy job. Once you either verify the injectors are good, or put new ones in, then re-assess performance. If still bad, I would move on to the injection pump as the next possible culprit. When I have injection pump issues, I take it to the shop, so I can't offer you much advice about that.
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Old 04-15-2013, 12:05 PM   #26
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Re: Out with the old, in with the new 7 window

Check out the Ford Powerstroke forums. They may have an answer for you. The Ford powerstroke is made by International if memory serves so it's likely most engine parts will be the same.
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Old 04-15-2013, 02:40 PM   #27
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Check out the Ford Powerstroke forums. They may have an answer for you. The Ford powerstroke is made by International if memory serves so it's likely most engine parts will be the same.
The Powerstroke is a very different animal - it has electronic fuel injection for one thing, and therefore no injection pump. In terms of troubleshooting fuel problems, I don't think there is much similarity other than the fact they are both diesels. But some Powerstroke owners may have previously had a pre-Powerstroke Navistar engine, so I guess it couldn't hurt to ask. Unfortunately, I've not found a good internet forum for the pre-Powerstroke Navistar diesel engines. I guess they are just not so common anymore since they haven't been produced since the mid-1990's.
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Old 04-21-2013, 09:31 AM   #28
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I will sell you a 5.9 Cummins to replace it with.

Just kidding. Good luck. You will figure it out.

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Old 04-21-2013, 11:11 AM   #29
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Re: Out with the old, in with the new 7 window

well, it finally quit raining here. Not that I'm cursing it, because we desperately needed it... It just makes busing difficult
So. I have started to frame in the kitchen area. It is coming along slowly.. Most of the time it is one board an hour. I am trying have the forethought for every detail so as to make the finish work much easier.



I changed the nasty 16qt of oil and new filter included in the sale. Before oil change you would turn the key and it would start in "One-One-thousand" count... NOW, its click-voom!! sound has less clatter too, I know diesels sound like they are gonna clank apart but it sounds smoother. Very pleased.

Still don't know about the fuel out the exhaust. It's not tagged yet so... illegal to drive. I hope to get it renovated and inspected for a motor home title within the next few weeks, and then complete tune-up I'm thinking..
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I am trying have the forethought for every detail so as to make the finish work much easier.
I'm the same way. Instead of thinking one or two steps ahead, I'm trying to think every step ahead so I don't have to un-do anything I've done. This makes for slow going.
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