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Old 09-21-2016, 09:31 PM   #1
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Philippian the Great (2001 Thomas International)

Hello!

So thrilled to find this treasure trove of ideas and inspiration here! We just recently took the leap and bought a beautiful 30 ft. Thomas International with the 5.9 liter Cummins and Allison 545 trans. Seems like a great combo for the size of this bus and is running very well. First analysis passed all of my criteria, no significant rust on the frame or motor, no leaks, and it started and drove 130 miles home to Fayetteville, AR.
I jumped into the demolition right away as to harness some of the energy of excitement, 2 weeks later and all the seats, floor, and the pain-in-the-arse L-track are OUT! Nothing a good ole angle grinder couldn't handle.
I decided to pull the heaters and the long hoses running the length of the bus as well, I just cut the hoses right under the drivers seat, drained the coolant into buckets, and elbowed the two together as to complete the loop from the radiator(right?). After I did all that I poured most of the coolant back into the radiator.
Now, here's my first mystery to solve. I started up the bus and let it idle for maybe 15 minutes and noticed the temp gauge was reading 230 and rising slowly. I turned the motor off immediately and now I'm pondering what could be happening in there. Any ideas?
I would post some pics but they aren't uploading for some reason, I'll figure it out before the next post. So happy to join this community and share the story with you all, Cheers!

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Old 09-21-2016, 09:57 PM   #2
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not an expert or anything, but I do not think its recommended to reuse the coolant. Sounds like there is probably air in the system that needs to be bleed out.
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Old 09-21-2016, 10:07 PM   #3
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Oh gee... thats what I get for trying to be conservative with my fluids. ��
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Old 09-21-2016, 11:02 PM   #4
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I'm about 70 minutes south of Fayetteville...
Was up there Friday afternoon... Hell of a storm passed through! Suburban was slowed down to 20mph coming over the hill...

I'm 20 miles southwest of Fort Smith

I want to get back up there during Habitat for Humanities' ReStore business hours soon.
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Old 09-21-2016, 11:12 PM   #5
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Glad to hear it! We moved up here from the Conway area a few years ago and we're still lovin it!
The ReStore is a great resource! All the good stuff goes quick I imagine, but there's always something useful around.
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Old 09-21-2016, 11:14 PM   #6
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Justin, Thanks for the quick response, any idea where the bleeder valve for the coolant system would be on this thing?
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Old 09-22-2016, 06:38 AM   #7
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https://issuu.com/antdove/docs/cummins_b_series_engines
look on page 48-49

I will be up at my bus this weekend doing a coolant flush and will take some pictures.
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Old 09-23-2016, 09:24 PM   #8
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Wow, thanks for sharing that document, it helped tremendously. Great to see your progress! We are moving right along through the demolition process and tuning up the motor here and there as we go, one small project at a time!
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its not a good idea to elbow your heater lines together as it may cause the other heaters to not have enough pressure to warm up..

most busses the heaters are in parallel and the rear heater loop distamce piuts just enough resistance (along with a reduction in line size in the coil) to keep a pressure differential between supply and return to force coolant into the other heater cores..

you may be fine, oir may have no heat at idle.. nevertheless i wouldnt cover up that connection until you see if it works fine in the cold winter..

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Old 09-24-2016, 10:52 AM   #10
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I see... That elbow is just temporary, I plan on reconnecting the lines and running them under the steel after we have finished the flooring inside. Probably will reuse the two heaters I removed, just in different locations inside. Should there be a certain distance of line between them, or do they just need to be in parallel to get the correct resistance?
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