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Old 07-07-2013, 10:57 PM   #141
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I have no idea. It kinda seemed like it, though. All I needed to get it off was razor blades and a pressure washer. The edges are going to take more work, though. They are peeling, but harder to scrape off.
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Old 07-08-2013, 11:53 AM   #142
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Hey JakeC, maybe I can shed some light on your paint delema. Vehicle manufactures have been required to use water borne primers and paints for about the last 20 years. While these paints are more "friendly" to the environment, they leave a lot to be desired when it comes to long term service. The shinny grey paint you found under the yellow is water borne primer.Since this primer is sprayed over bare metal it must be baked dry immediately or rust starts thanks to the water. Once the primer is baked it is very hard and not easily melted by the (water borne) color coat. After 7-10 years or so the not too strong bond between the primer and color coat(s) fails and the color peels off.

You are on the right track continuing to peel off the loose yellow. You'll probably find it easy to peel on any surface which "points up". The sides will probably remain intact as they get less direct sun. If the color peels easily, remove it. If the color seems to be secure, leave it alone. The grey primer will need to be sanded with 320 grit non filling dry sand paper and then washed with a mild detergent solution (then rinse) to get rid if the dust and any oils that may be present. The sanding gives the new color coat something to "bite"into and will prevent future paint peel problems.

By the way, The water borne paints are not latex paint. While it is quick and easy to repaint a bus with latex house paint, the overall quality of the paint job will not begin to approach the quality of an oil based paint (industrial coating, Rustoleum oil based etc.). My comments come from over 40 years experience in refinishing automobiles and I hope they are of some help.
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Old 07-08-2013, 01:17 PM   #143
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That helps a ton and describes it perfectly!! Thanks, I sincerely appreciate the info. Lets me know I'm on the right track. I just have to finish the edges of the roof, where it is starting to stick, and then the very top rub rail, then I'll be done. Most of the rest of the bus is already prepped.
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Wow, I see what you mean. I'm glad I started out with good, old paint, it makes my job a little easier.
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Old 07-08-2013, 09:41 PM   #145
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Yup, its fairly overwhelming. I saw the pic of your prepped roof and was severely jealous.
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Old 07-09-2013, 01:26 PM   #146
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I feel for ya, looks like a lot of work...peeling roof paint, yikes!
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Pain. In. My. Ass. But I will prevail!! I'm pretty persistent. My dad is coming to help me tonight.
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Old 07-10-2013, 11:00 AM   #148
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Passenger side of roof is done. It took stripper and a wire wheel to get it all, but it is done. The entire top of the roof is also done, as seen in my previous pics. Tonight the drivers side gets completed and I hope to start on some bondo. I plan to smooth around my flasher block off plates and I also have a nasty break in the sheetmetal directly above the door. I welded it a couple of years ago and it has held up great, I just need to smooth it. Getting closer!!



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Old 07-10-2013, 11:10 AM   #149
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With all that prep work, I'd consider spending some coin on automotive paint.
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I considered it, but I'm all out of coin. Bottom line is... Would automotive paint be better? Yep. Do I care enough to do it? Nope. A good oil-based enamel with appropriate hardener and thinned with Naphtha should give me a good, glossy, and durable finish. I just want it grey. Not faded yellow, orange, primer gray, primer red, and blue. I am going to be priming the entire bus, though. I'm not doing all this and then just painting over it with no primer.
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