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Old 01-08-2017, 07:58 PM   #41
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damn good job. I wish i knew my engine like that.
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Old 01-08-2017, 10:21 PM   #42
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Wow, Could be why it sat for so long too. What in the world does the oilpan look like on this pancake'd Detroit?
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Old 01-27-2017, 08:29 PM   #43
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Interior Updates

Well, California's drought is over. It's been raining out here for weeks, so I've taken shelter inside. Even got some work done.

First up, paint. I just could not live with that "middle-school locker room green" so I bought an airless sprayer and went at it.



I spent a solid week sanding and cleaning and masking for prep. In the end, it came out "OK" ... but honestly I was hoping I could get it smoother, especially in the back. But at some point, you just gotta keep moving forward.

I didn't do the rear escape door yet, so here's some contrast between the colors



Next, I insulated the walls below the windows. I used rigid foam for mold resistance and so I can disassemble things later if I need to rewire or rust-bust or anything like that.



I was torn here. I really like this textured chromed wall stuff, but it was in pretty bad shape (darn gum-chewing kids again) and riveted to the structural wall like crazy. That, plus the lack of insulation led me to this plan of attack. I made furring strips by tracing the curve of the bus walls on some cardboard with an improvised divider -- a sharpie duct-tapped to a stick -- and then cut the curve with a bandsaw. I also pulled out the floor-to-wall curve, so I'll be able to build the final wall square to the floor, gaining a bit of space and making fitting furniture easier.

I used R-5 xps 1" thick (aka "the pink stuff", aka the "blue stuff"). It comes in 4x8 sheets. Four was plenty for me. It's much easier/less horrible to work with then fiberglass batts imho.

Lastly, I scored this EPA-certified wood stove from the Habitat for Humanity Restore for $100!



Big enough for a house, but I don't care. To me, it's not home without a woodstove.

Forgot to take a picture, but I was also gifted a massive, RV-style, fixed propane tank that I'll mount once the mud drys out a bit.

Next up is getting all this big stuff in the bus! My crown is most-defiantly NOT ADA compliant. Both the front and back doors are only 22" wide... too narrow for either the wood stove or the cook stove I have for the project, and probably the shower pan, and other big furniture items i want inside.

I have a few ideas on how to get stuff inside. I could pull one of the windshields... but the consequences if I break the glass in removal are pretty expensive. And I dislike working with auto-glass anyway.

I thought about reworking the rear door, making it into a double door. That could work, but getting the hinges and hardware to work seems like it'll be time-consuming.

So my leading plan is to cut out the rear metal where the "bad-kids" seat all the way aft is. The "trunk" on the crown is massive -- I think I've read that school districts could order buses with a rear-mounted engine -- and all that separates it from the main passenger compartment is this sheet metal. I've looked closely, and it's not structural. So I think I could cut it out, bring the big stuff in via the "trunk", and then re-weld it into place, or rework it anyway, so that the bikes fit better in the trunk.

Crown owners, how did you get the big stuff in?
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Old 01-27-2017, 09:28 PM   #44
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I'm hoping to get things thru the RV Windows I put in, otherwise windshield it is.
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Old 01-28-2017, 09:03 AM   #45
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very cool, gotta follow, and love the wood burning stove.
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Old 01-28-2017, 09:08 AM   #46
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We need a video of the old girl running, are you on Youtube?
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Old 01-28-2017, 01:30 PM   #47
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Next up is getting all this big stuff in the bus! My crown is most-defiantly NOT ADA compliant. Both the front and back doors are only 22" wide... Crown owners, how did you get the big stuff in?

The rear side door on my 76 Crown is 31" wide and 50" tall. Big enough for anything I needed to move in and out. I'm using a chest freezer as a frig and an apartment sized propane range so nothing in my bus is that big anyway. The mattress will probably be the hardest thing to move in...
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Old 01-29-2017, 12:38 AM   #48
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Great looking bus, now you know the engine inside and out, literally
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Old 02-01-2017, 11:24 AM   #49
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make sure the stop flap works on the intake in case you get a run away. If it has not lost it's prime and is runable it should start pretty easy. the old fuel should be fine and at worst will stop up the fuel filters if it is contaminated. Get some spares for when the time comes. Oil will look black in a 2 stroke shortly after an oil change... not a problem. straight 671 will hold about 22 qts. Run it a bit then change it out. these motors run forever.
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Old 02-01-2017, 03:13 PM   #50
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I'm surprised that your door is only 22" wide. Both my entrance and emergency doors are exactly 24" wide. When I had Ronco Plastics make my four tanks I told them that if they were even 1/16" larger than 24" I would not be able to get them through the door for temporary storage inside while I made their support frames underneath. My Splendide washer/dryer fitted through the rear door with less than a quarter inch to spare.

I like having enough space between the front door and wheel to have my generator there on a slide-out mount. I've never seen any other bus (except a Neoplan Spaceliner) that has so much space there. For me, a wider door would just be wasted space. It's still slightly disconcerting when I make tight turns and the whole front of the bus swings so wide, sometimes completely over a curb!

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