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Old 12-24-2014, 12:34 AM   #61
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Ceiling Panels Conquered!


It's been a couple weeks since my last posts. I was just about to figure out how to remove the ceiling panels, and struggling with how the dang things come out. They were fitted in together snug as anything. So I decided to do the natural thing:

Bring out the big guns. Air compressor & air chisel.

It was just a full on attack with little strategy at first. I just wanted to rip some steel open & see what I was dealing with. Ultimately, I saw that there were spot welds in about 15 places along each panel, with the panels tongued into grooves above the windows & the next panel.

I would crack in with the air chisel, then use a combination of the chisel, hammer, large screwdriver, and crowbar to extract each panel. Lots of jagged metal, only a little blood, I feel I came away pretty much victorious. Interestingly (frustratingly?) they installed the panels from the rear to the middle, and the front to the middle, so when I worked my way from the back to the front there was a point where the process I was using wasn't working anymore. I realized what they had done, cussed, called it a night & came back the next day & finished it.

12 hours of that & the ceiling was out. Easily the hardest part so far, and I'm beat up & sore. What's making it harder is a tendon issue in my left arm/wrist, rendering my left arm pretty much as a stabilizer/metal deflector/hammer target. Hit it a couple times, cussed, cussed some more, wondered what I was doing & was I crazy? and kept the assault on the ceiling going.

Ecstatic it's out! On to the next project!

Oh...kind of a fun find:


41+ year old graffiti on the inside roof, hidden by the ceiling panels for 4 decades...Balt. Warriors? I'll add my own graffiti before I slap up the insulation & new ceiling!
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Old 12-24-2014, 01:17 AM   #62
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Next job to do is the side panels. In the previous post you can see where the panels have all been unscrewed & some loosened so that they're starting to bow in. I'm trying to figure out the strategy, because the Gilligites did it again: they built this bus like they knew Eastwood would be using it in "The Gauntlet."



The silver metal crinkly walls are welded to the lower green wall, which is in turn bent under to form the outer lip that the 3/4" plywood flooring sits on. Nasty! Beautiful design, obviously they never imagined some 5 year old (at the time) would be renovating it into his house! Beautiful but nasty.

So the plan (subject to change!) may be to torch or cut a line about 2" from the floor, from one end to the other, then lift both the silver panels (still attached to) the remaining green lower panel. After cleaning, sealing, insulating & putting up the wood walls, I'll just hide the ugly green part with matching moulding.

Speaking of all that fun stuff, I spent some time researching what type of wood I wanted to use, learned a ton, and made some decisions. I'll write about that in the next post.

First I'll show the layout as I see it now, and I'm sure it will change a little, but not drastically.



Actually, not pictured here is the electric dryer I'll install. No need for a washer, just more opportunity to flood my new home & really, I can do my own washing in a plastic tub! The dryer is important to, well...DRY stuff, but also "man iron" my shirts & pants. I found a really cool dryer, and it's a low-energy sucking cute little thing.

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Old 12-24-2014, 03:12 AM   #63
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Congrats on getting the ceiling panels out.
I just finished mine up recently. Air chisel is awesome, I love mine.
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Old 12-24-2014, 11:04 AM   #64
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See...Victory is Swwwweeet!!!!!...and why keep hitting your arm if it already hurt ?





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Old 12-24-2014, 07:11 PM   #65
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Actually, not pictured here is the electric dryer I'll install. No need for a washer, just more opportunity to flood my new home & really, I can do my own washing in a plastic tub! The dryer is important to, well...DRY stuff, but also "man iron" my shirts & pants. I found a really cool dryer, and it's a low-energy sucking cute little thing.

If anything I'd sacrifice the dryer long before the washer. Its much easier to string a clothes line above your woodstove than it is to scrub spaghetti sauce out of your underwear.
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Yes I agree with headintrees.
To each their own though.
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Old 12-24-2014, 10:05 PM   #67
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ECCB: It was the difference maker, although the good old hammer was the go-to workhorse most of the time. The Air Chisel was pure butter though!

Bansil: hmmmmm.....for the challenge of working through even more pain? Haha

Tree head: I agree. One of my biggest pet peeves is spaghetti sauce in my underwear. Happens at least twice a week. But this is my thinking: I don't want lines of clothes dripping water on my floor, or smelling of burning oak. But the main thing is that I'm trying to keep the water lines simple & few. One for my shower, one for my kitchen sink & water heater. And the 'Man Iron' aspect...can't forget de-wrinkling your clothes! ;)
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Have you thought about one of the small european washer dryer units?
They install them in their kitchens and they are both a dryer and a washer in the same smallish unit. about the size of a western dishwasher usually. I know you aren't keen on more plumbing, but it really wouldn't take much to add one of these and then you would have both in the same footprint. Just a thought.
Starting to think about going that route myself.
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Have you thought about one of the small european washer dryer units?
They install them in their kitchens and they are both a dryer and a washer in the same smallish unit. about the size of a western dishwasher usually. I know you aren't keen on more plumbing, but it really wouldn't take much to add one of these and then you would have both in the same footprint. Just a thought.
Starting to think about going that route myself.
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Those are super nice. Seen them on some higher end rv's too. Best part is, you don't have to move your clothes halfway through. Just put em in and 2 hours later they're clean and dry.

I've always thought if you were industrious you could make one of these DIY. Just add a heater+blower to a regular washer, a microcontroller with some relays, and some clever code. Could get tricky with waterproofing and such, I haven't worked out the details of this obviously. :P
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In actual use those combo units suck...you can do 2 sets of clothes at a time or they never get clean or dry....2shirts,2pants and 4 socks

I have talked with enough folks that hate them (no personal experience)

Most full timers or 2week travelers have seperate apartment appliances

We don't have room, we use a laundry mat once a week normally at campgrounds
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