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Old 12-03-2014, 08:51 AM   #31
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Re: Queen of Peace -- '82 Int'l Bluebird w/ 20" raise, solar

Nice grab! It's hard to see from the photo, but often the poly-iso insulation boards are foil faced, which is intended to be a radiant barrier. Are yours different?
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Old 12-04-2014, 01:17 AM   #32
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Re: Queen of Peace -- '82 Int'l Bluebird w/ 20" raise, solar

Nope, those boards do not have a foil facing, so it's time to pick some up. I'm curious how my boards will fare compared to the same 3" of closed-cell spray foam, if I can manage to install them tightly.
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Old 12-14-2014, 04:09 PM   #33
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Re: Queen of Peace -- '82 Int'l Bluebird w/ 20" raise, solar

Been a busy week, but it started snowing today and it's too cold/close to the dew point for my floor paint to cure properly so I thought I'd give a report back.

I brought the bus out of the shop where it was parked for the past 8 weeks while we raised the roof and epoxy primed the new steel. I had left the original floor in the bus while we did the heavy lifting, so to speak, and once the bus was back in the yard, it was time to rip up the old rubber and plywood floor.

I've done this on a carpenter bus before and let me just say that the bluebird construction definitely is better in several respects than the carpenter. The main ones I've noticed are the extensive use of galvanized steel on pretty much all the coachwork Ive encountered--floor, ceiling, walls-- and from what I can tell, the Carpenter used non-galvanized. Additionally, the plywood under the rubber is nailed into the metal body pan on my bluebird while on the carpenter, it was glued and, by the time I got my hands on it, the glue had almost entirely broken down. Granted, this is well beyond the service life of both buses, the carpenter being an 87 and the bluebird i now have being an 82.

Anyway, after prying the plywood off the floor and grinding down the nailheads, I hit the whole pan with my wire wheel on my angle grinder to clear off the loosest rust before cleaning the whole floor and bus thoroughly (lots of grinder wheel dust) and coating any rusty areas with rustoleum rust converter.

I will be following up with epoxy primer as soon as the conditions are more suitable. Hoping to get a good start on the subflooring this week.
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Old 12-20-2014, 12:55 AM   #34
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I finished the subfloor framing and poly-iso insulation install today.

The front two crosspieces of framing (nearest the back door and at the front) are pressure treated.

The 3 1/2" framing will leave a 1/2" air gap between the insulation and the 3/4" t&g osb subfloor. To the underside of the osb, i'll staple a radiant barrier and make use of the air gap.
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Old 12-21-2014, 09:54 AM   #35
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Nice work on the flooring!
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Old 12-21-2014, 11:24 AM   #36
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What no hydronic floor heating? I guess some people just settle. Jk of course, very nice build so far. The job on the roof looks amazing. Do you snowboard/ski? Heard CO is doing well already this year snow-wise. I might be out there sometime later in the spring to get some turns in.
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Old 12-22-2014, 12:35 AM   #37
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I would be lying if I said I hadn't thought about running some pex and going radiant ;)

I will be using a woodstove for heat though. I've got my heart set on a Hobbit stove, but the shipping from the UK has me bummed out. I would love to find a way to heat water using the stove and either pipe it to a radiator at the other end of the bus, or for use showering, etc...

If you make it out here, give me a holler! I love talkin bus
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Old 01-05-2015, 03:10 AM   #38
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Great bus!

I am really impressed with the your vision for this bus. You have done great work so far! Where will your bus be parked when you are living in it? Will shore power be available? I was just wondering why you where emphasizing the solar so much. Or do you just want to be off the grid?
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My bus will be parked for the most part while I live in it, but I want it to be very driveable and I might have stints where I will be roaming, so Im keeping my options open. Shore power will probably be available at a lot of the places Ill be living, but I don't want to worry about it, plus I want to be off-grid as much as possible, plus it will be a fun challenge to make a solar system at this scale for me. I've only ever done smaller setups.
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Old 01-12-2015, 10:46 PM   #40
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F*cking Rust!

I got out to my bus today and noticed some light brown streaking on the primer I painted over my new steel. The primer I used was SEM Metalock direct to metal primer/sealer. It was a 2 part and supposed to seal the metal from the environment. IT DIDNT!
Man Im so bummed and kind of pissed. Not sure how Im going to deal with the issue. Worst case Ill have to sand the whole sides and repaint ???! Oh man...
Maybe Ill just paint over the rust and cross my fingers...which is lazy, but easy. And I dont know where I would paint the girl since I dont have access to a shop and its the middle of winter now

Im thinking about waiting until a sunny day (wednesday) and just rolling on some rustoleum over the thing to get me through until summer when I can paint it properly.

Anyway, I got the subfloor in, pretty pleased with it. It's 3/4" OSB over the radiant/vapor barrier reflectix. There's a 1/2" air gap between the OSB and the top of the polyiso insulation. I think it should help keep me toasty!

Hoping to also get the ceiling along a ways this week, we'll see. It's been cold in CO!
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