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04-30-2017, 09:30 AM
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Almost There
Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: Arizona
Posts: 75
Year: 1996
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: TC 2000
Engine: 5.9 Cummins
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Raising Arizona
Well we took the plunge and started this crazy adventure. Bought a 96 Bluebird TC 2000 Cummings 5.9
Spent the weekend pulling seats and ripping up the floors. Boy the wood around the wheel wells were tough but we got through it. Little rust here and there but nothing a wire brush and coroseal can't solve.
I'm excited to join the community.
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04-30-2017, 09:50 AM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Columbus Ohio
Posts: 18,707
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Carpenter
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: DTA360 / MT643
Rated Cap: 7 Row Handicap
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Nice arizona busses that dont rust out in 20 years!!
-Christopher
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04-30-2017, 09:55 AM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,762
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Also- check out Rust Reformer. I just read some scientific testing that showed it to be awesome stuff.
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05-01-2017, 12:06 PM
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Almost There
Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: Arizona
Posts: 75
Year: 1996
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: TC 2000
Engine: 5.9 Cummins
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Yea that stuff looks good. Went out to local home Depot and they didn't carry the coroseal or the rust reformer so looks like it'll have to be ordered online
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05-01-2017, 12:14 PM
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: Waco, Texas
Posts: 64
Year: 2003
Chassis: 2003 International CE; 2 A/C Units; PS; Air Brakes
Engine: T444E 7.3L Diesel Engine
Rated Cap: 72 Passengers
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Welcome -I'm jealous of your floors. My "Texas" bus didn't have any rust on the body or the underside frame, but boy, when I pulled up the floor, I had a surprise. Lots of rust to grind. Rust reformer is great stuff, but you still have to get down past the scale.
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Redheadraptor
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05-01-2017, 12:58 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,762
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AZtom
Yea that stuff looks good. Went out to local home Depot and they didn't carry the coroseal or the rust reformer so looks like it'll have to be ordered online
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Just go to ace or another store and get a gallon of Ospho for $24.99.
Its amazing stuff. For the price difference over buying coroseal you can pick up a gallon of ospho AND a gallon of rustoleum.
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05-14-2017, 11:06 AM
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Almost There
Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: Arizona
Posts: 75
Year: 1996
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: TC 2000
Engine: 5.9 Cummins
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Well looked at Ace and they only had the little bottle of ospho so I bought some coroseal at Amazon instead. Applied it and let it cure. It looks good so it's on to paint.
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05-14-2017, 12:11 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Willamina, Oregon
Posts: 6,409
Coachwork: 97 Bluebird TC1000 5.9
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Ahhhhhh, the first level of bus zen achievement. A clean floor. Or is the first level getting the bus home? Or buying it?
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Robin
Nobody's Business
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05-14-2017, 12:55 PM
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Almost There
Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: Arizona
Posts: 75
Year: 1996
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: TC 2000
Engine: 5.9 Cummins
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I'd say 1st level is a combo buying and getting it home. It felt great getting that done.
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05-14-2017, 03:00 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Willamina, Oregon
Posts: 6,409
Coachwork: 97 Bluebird TC1000 5.9
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Have you gone through your back peddling phase? There always seems to be a few days of regret after making a large purchase, especially with so much labor attached to it.
The thing is for the next one or two years you're driving back and forth to the home store to get building materials, and the damn thing doesn't die on the side of the road. About eighteen months later you're still dumping money into it and finally realize it's actually working out. Ok, maybe that fits me closer than it does you.
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Robin
Nobody's Business
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05-14-2017, 04:12 PM
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Almost There
Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: Arizona
Posts: 75
Year: 1996
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: TC 2000
Engine: 5.9 Cummins
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Oh yea I had that moment when we were ripping out the seats and floors. That's when it hits you how much labor and time it's going to take. I figure it's like owning a home. You'll always find things to improve and fix and spend money and time on.
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05-14-2017, 04:15 PM
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Almost There
Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: Arizona
Posts: 75
Year: 1996
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: TC 2000
Engine: 5.9 Cummins
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Painting is done! Now to tackle the routing of the old floor seat heater hose.
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05-14-2017, 11:43 PM
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Almost There
Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: Arizona
Posts: 75
Year: 1996
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: TC 2000
Engine: 5.9 Cummins
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For the heater hose I saw that it already had a bracket under the front wheel well so I decided to use that. I created a U from 3/4 in pipe fittings. It look like it'll work. Now I need to find about 10 gallons of antifreeze.
Any suggestions on a place to pick up that much antifreeze at a good price?
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05-25-2017, 12:05 PM
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Almost There
Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: Arizona
Posts: 75
Year: 1996
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: TC 2000
Engine: 5.9 Cummins
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Well this Arizona heat is trying to slow us down. I had to install a small window A/C to get a little but of reprieve. But we got the floor holes patched and convinced the kids that it's cool to use an air hammer. Damn these rivets!
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05-25-2017, 12:08 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Columbus Ohio
Posts: 18,707
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Carpenter
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: DTA360 / MT643
Rated Cap: 7 Row Handicap
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im not sure id be comfortable with that hose U... rubber against rubber... seems like its asking to leak..
-Christopher
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05-25-2017, 12:24 PM
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Almost There
Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: Arizona
Posts: 75
Year: 1996
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: TC 2000
Engine: 5.9 Cummins
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Im not understanding the rubber on rubber part? The U portion is a metal pipe fitted inside the existing heater hose clamped down. I am kind of concerned with the pipe threads clamped down by the heater hose leaking so I applied some white pipe thread goop stuff that they sell in the plumbing dept at HD. I guess time will tell.
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05-25-2017, 01:34 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Willamina, Oregon
Posts: 6,409
Coachwork: 97 Bluebird TC1000 5.9
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That hose loop seems like it would work fine. It's the insulation on the hoses that are touching.
It's good you've got helpers. It does a lot for kids to be involved on a project like this.
You'll have stronger words for the rivets by time you're done.
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Robin
Nobody's Business
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06-02-2017, 08:38 AM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: NY
Posts: 774
Year: 2002
Coachwork: International
Engine: dt466
Rated Cap: 65C-43A
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AZtom
Yea that stuff looks good. Went out to local home Depot and they didn't carry the coroseal or the rust reformer so looks like it'll have to be ordered online
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Got my Rustoleum Rust Reformer at HD but it's in spray cans. I love the stuff. I've been using a lot of it.
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06-02-2017, 02:20 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,762
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Not trying to be a downer but the spray cans aren't the same as the liquid converter stuff. I've not seen the jugs of liquid for sale anywhere but online.
The spray is ok stuff, for sure. I've used it on parts of my bus. But you have to do the same surface prep as you would without it. I top coated mine with appliance epoxy and its held up well in my 92's battery compartment. and tray.
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06-02-2017, 03:47 PM
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#20
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Almost There
Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: Arizona
Posts: 75
Year: 1996
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: TC 2000
Engine: 5.9 Cummins
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