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Old 08-06-2009, 08:25 AM   #41
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Re: RazorCityDen's 1994 Cornbinder

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Thats a funny story Rick! I am diggin your bus also, very nice!
The mountains look wonderful Den! Where were the photos taken?

I have a question while we are on mid-ship door talk... On the Transit the profile is so low that if I were to cut the body down to the rub rail like your schoolie I think I would have too many steps & they would be offset too far into the frame rail making it not feasable... So I thought maybe a platform inside the door opening & then the steps 90 to the right up to the floor... Any Input or suggestions to why this would or wouldn't be a good idea?

Jonathan
The highway pic was taken rolling into the Monument Valley on the Arizona/Utah border during a sandstorm, we really like the Four Corners area. The mule riding pic was on the Bright Angle Trail dropping into the Colorado River from the South Rim of the Grand Canyon and the hard hat pic was on a commercial job in the Razor City, OSHA compliant of course

It's hard to say what I'd do with your stairs ezbme without seeing whats going on under your bus and taking a tape measure to it, but I know I could have easily cut my stair well 24" towards the frame, but I had 12" from finish floor to finish floor on the bottom of my stair well and only needed one step in the well for two 6" rises, so I cut mine 20" for two 10" treads. I could have cut mine even less that 20" but that worked out good the way my stairwell is between the computer secretary and the wood stove platform over the wheel well. I wanted my wood stove in the middle of the bus to spread heat and near the door so it's easy to clean out and load the wood box, without toting ash or wood through the bus.

Put up some pics of the area your thinking of a stair well with a tape measure in them. On the outside of the bus finish floor to bottom of skirt, and underneath from the out side of bus skin to the frame rail, that would make it easier too come up with a rise/run solution and determine what you will need for a slide in RV step.

My two tread slide-in RV step came off an old travel trailer, the steps off the 07" fifth wheel I looted for parts had three treads and hung down too low when they were folded up. I was looking for max ground clearance, our bus is going to see a lot of BLM and forestry back roads.
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Old 08-06-2009, 08:43 AM   #42
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Re: RazorCityDen's 1994 Cornbinder

A few more pics of our stomping grounds
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Old 08-06-2009, 08:56 AM   #43
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Maybe just a couple more
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Old 08-06-2009, 09:37 AM   #44
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Re: RazorCityDen's 1994 Cornbinder

Wow...Great shots & beautiful country! I can't wait to move out towards the 4 corners! We are moving to New Mexico in about a month or so & will be about 1.5 hours from Arizona border. We are dying to travel & see what is out in the midwest! I have been a photographer for many years but mostly product photography & am jonesin' to shoot nature as it has been too many years & I can only shoot so many sunsets & babes in Florida!
SOOO...is that a "wild sweetie" leg by chance??

How much gold mining have you done? Any big finds or just for fun...A good friend of mine has rights to some old mines in WA state & has found a good amount but nothing big. Are you living in Wyoming at the moment? My wife & I are looking for fellow skoolies that may come thru the Datil NM area to come visit & stay a spell if interested. Busses are always welcome & we have plenty of room to roam at the new property!

Anyway, as we all say, thanks for the photos, the more the better!!

I will look at the frame location a little better to see if I can in fact run the steps straight in. After I wrote about it I was lying in bed trying to sleep thinking about Buster (like most nights) & I realized that the front door steps are lower than the profile of the body & those steps obviously fit fine so I may in fact have enough room to do it. My bus has a really wide side door opening so I am thinking about options as far as either filling the extra space with metal or if I can find a tall narrow window that is the height of the new RV door I could place that right next to the door - might look cool!

paul iossi: somewhere i saw a conversion where they put the door in at floor level and then built a "drawer" with a platform and stairs that were at a 90% to the door, open the drawer and you have steps, clpose the drawer and the steps disappear, just put a warning light on the dash so you don't forget to close the steps before you go down the road.

or how about foldout, swing out or pull out steps under the door on the outside?

note; look at some stick and staple trailers, they use external steps that fold out and keep the floor all at one level.


Interesting ideas Paul...gives me more to think about! GREAT...No More Sleep!
Thanks, Jonathan
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Old 08-06-2009, 10:19 AM   #45
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I saw a few pics on the Yahoo Group Skoolie site and a guy was shrinking his wide wheel chair door to RV door size with angle iron framing and building a stair well below it, You would need to do some body panel and floor fill in, but that's not a big deal. You've got a good looking bus it looks like the exterior is 90% done!

So far we have only taken extended road trips into the Four Corners area but were itching to get down there at least seasonally, when I get the bus done we're going to hit it hard. We have equipment and mine reasonably serious but not full time, I'm a building contractor/commercial contract superintendent and hit the prospecting/mining between jobs. If we were busing full time (which is in the cards) we could make a decent subsistence living. At any rate it's a good excuse to be running around the back country

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Old 08-08-2009, 06:28 PM   #46
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I got that big hole in the passenger side floor filled it.

Pretty straight forward, I used 2X2x3/16" angle iron bolted to the flange that supported the original stairwell with 3/8" bolts on the three sides with the flange. On the side with the 2"x2" channel I used 3/8" self-threading bolts. Over top of the primed angle iron went a piece of 20 gauge galvanized sheet metal siliconed into place and over that went a piece of 3/4" OSB subfloor edge and back primed then screwed and glued down with 1/4" X 1 1/4" sheet metal screws though the angle iron.

I'm going to use spray can undercoating to protect everything under the bus that I've added.

Done deal.
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Old 08-08-2009, 06:46 PM   #47
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Getting the slider in square and then trimmed out was a little tedious, mostly because I didn't really know how I was going to do it

I wanted the installation to exactly match the drivers side but that just wasn't going to happened, there were just too many differences so I settled for close. I had grabbed all the metal trim pieces I could when I pulled the window and they came in handy for the inside. On the out side I used the trim piece for the bi-fold door that had a nice bent edge to butt up against the window then I siliconed it from the inside. Like the drivers side I trimmed it out so that it could be removed and repaired if needed. I think the exterior trim will blend in well enough when it's all painted.

The bottom picture is the completed stairwell and permanently installed door.

Tomorrow I'm going to cut in the propane locker door and then it's rubrailarama for the passenger side

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Old 08-08-2009, 07:26 PM   #48
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Re: RazorCityDen's 1994 Cornbinder

Wow. That looks amazingly nice. I like the way you incorporated the RV steps. It looks very professional.
Did you say you were going to install a passenger's seat next to the driver's seat? Or are you going to fill that space with something else?
Thanks for showing something like this is possible.
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Old 08-08-2009, 07:51 PM   #49
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Wow. That looks amazingly nice. I like the way you incorporated the RV steps. It looks very professional.
Did you say you were going to install a passenger's seat next to the driver's seat? Or are you going to fill that space with something else?
Thanks for showing something like this is possible.
Thanks TygerCub, I'm looking for a couple mini-van seats right now for side by side mounting. I'm going to space the passenger seat about 12" from the new wall with a low cabinet so it will be similar to the drivers side and route that heater vent though the side of it towards the passengers feat. The co-pilot seat about has to be spaced over so the there will be good leg room, I'll also have to find someplace else for the fire extinguisher.

I'll be glad when the metal work is done it's not my favorite part

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I have 2 seats (with seat belts) you can have. Ya just gotta come get 'em
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