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Old 08-20-2015, 06:57 PM   #281
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My scooter weighs 185 pounds.

My plan is to have both a scooter, and a smaller 2 stroke dirt bike on swing down carriers on the back of the bus. There will be one on each side of the rear door, in a upright position, front tire pointed at the sky.

I don't do 4 strokes in the smaller stuff. I like the characteristics and simplicity of the 2 stroke.

An even lighter solution may be a home made electric bike. You tube has some impressive videos of home made electric bikes. Best part is once the power runs out, or needs a boost, you can still peddle. And the bike should be under 100 pounds VS the almost 200 for a scooter.

An electric bike is in my near future. If I didn't have the scooter, it would be in my immediate future.

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Old 08-20-2015, 08:21 PM   #282
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I prefer 2 strokes also, but the simple little 80's get around 100 mpg and I can cruise upright into the wind at 45+mph.
I want a Dio or Yamaha Jog though. the 2 strokes are much more fun to hot rod!
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Old 08-20-2015, 10:26 PM   #283
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"A normally aspirated, gasoline burning two-cycle engine will produce 40% more horsepower per cc than a normally aspirated, gasoline burning 4-cycle engine".

That was the official scientific finding by the FIM* research team charged with handicapping two-cycle formulae race bikes back in the late seventies after they won something like 15 consecutive world championships. They were eventually "ruled" out of the running since the 4 strokes still couldn't compete with them.

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Old 08-21-2015, 12:54 AM   #284
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When I was in high school, a couple buddies had Kawi triples and RD's. Crazy bikes in the day. RD stood for rapid death back then.
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Old 08-21-2015, 12:59 AM   #285
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That's good to know Tango.

I don't know about the USA, but here in Alberta Canada, 49cc and under are dirt cheap to insure, and only need a learners license to operate.

My scooter cost $85 a year to insure, and around $40 to register.

For anything over 49cc, you I need a motorcycle license, and insurance would be close to $100 a month.

I may add a big bore 80cc kit to mine. Then even with my dog along for the ride, I will be able to do 100kmh.

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Old 08-21-2015, 04:49 AM   #286
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That's good to know Tango.

I don't know about the USA, but here in Alberta Canada, 49cc and under are dirt cheap to insure, and only need a learners license to operate.

My scooter cost $85 a year to insure, and around $40 to register.

For anything over 49cc, you I need a motorcycle license, and insurance would be close to $100 a month.

I may add a big bore 80cc kit to mine. Then even with my dog along for the ride, I will be able to do 100kmh.

Nat
No insurance required here... For any two wheeler.
but if its under 50cc it requires no license.
$15 a year for the tag.
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Old 08-21-2015, 07:13 AM   #287
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I have honda jazz 50cc honda 70 passport, and a mint honda trail 90. but I look cooler on a gsxr1000. Also have classic 1980 cx 500 honda .
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Old 08-21-2015, 09:12 AM   #288
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The horsepower to weight ratio for racing two strokes is just insane. My highly modified RD350 (converted to run 1/2 a water-cooled TZ750 top end) weighed in wet at just over two hundred pounds) and dynoed out at 135+ rear wheel horsepower. I ran it up in class against 500, 750 and even the Open Class (up to 1200cc's) and it routinely smoked them. It's only real competition were genuine Factory F1 & F2 bikes. Little bike, big fun.

Yamaha was really savvy back then and built the mild mannered RD series in such a way that mod racers could transplant most of the factory formula racer parts onto them with very little effort. That brought a lot of privateers into fold and their brand dominated the scene for years.

"King Kenny" Rogers in action on a TZ750 was one of the most amazing sites I ever witnessed on two wheels.

Funny thing is...even with all the new, exotic technology...Formula GP lap times on just about all the major road courses around the world...are slower today than they were in the late seventies.

Old school two-strokes STILL rule.
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Old 08-21-2015, 09:37 AM   #289
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Kenny Roberts.

Cal Rayborn said the TZ750 was a deadly bike. For him it was

Even an "old" LCR Honda RC213v has 250hp and weighs 247 lb. Of course this is Moto GP class, impressive stuff all around!
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Old 08-21-2015, 09:53 AM   #290
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I recently got a '78 Yamaha DT400 (2-stroke 400cc enduro) back up and running.. Even that things scares the shite outta me!
I was riding it last year, but it had a serious exhaust restriction from where the previous owner hit something and crushed the exhaust nearly flat. After replacing the exhaust pipe I started it up, hopped on and gave it some gas. It bucked me off like a bronco and had me laying in the dirt! I was so used to driving it with that restriction and had no idea how much power it actually had..
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