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Old 06-01-2016, 08:04 PM   #381
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I spent my last 20 years with a full fab ductwork shop that could make anything except flat-oval or spiral. For govt. const. I was in charge of the piping HVAC and plumbing for 10-yrs and coordinating ductwork And that's all I know?
We bought a piece of equipment and it didn't work? I was on the phone to all and the second I had a tech phone number or tech support. I was all over that
Now I work for a base/govt fire sprinkler company that has the same reputation as my last company but I ain't in charge of anything. Lost a few dollars but gained a lot of piece of mind.
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Old 06-05-2016, 07:52 PM   #382
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Look for old school HVAC sheetmetal shops. Not residential.
Or PM me.
They 43-yr old company I worked for closed there door's at Christmas but I still have full access to all of there sheetmetal fab shop/weld shop and all as long as we can plan it and it usually don't cost me anything but the material.
It will cost you material and shipping or you can make a trip to n.c. and get exactly what you want by helping me help you and pay for the material and your away from home expense.
If you can be of any help with the cap, that would be a lifesaver. I've exhausted all leads here. NO ONE is doing that kind of work here anymore. If the job isn't something easy and simple and if the customer isn't a rich old man, then they aren't interested.
IDK about getting the bus to NC though, could you work from pics and measurements?
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Old 06-05-2016, 07:57 PM   #383
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Send me what you have and we will start there.
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Old 06-05-2016, 08:03 PM   #384
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Send me what you have and we will start there.
If it works better e-mail to mdaniel@ramseyac.com
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Old 06-05-2016, 08:29 PM   #385
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Ok great, I'll shoot you an email.
Won't have any concrete details till I get the roof severed but will be soon.
THANKS!
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Old 06-05-2016, 09:36 PM   #386
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Look for some welding fabrication shops in your area and machine shops. They usually have contacts for stuff they can't do and can handle any welding that might be needed to make the part.
Below is a quick search I did of Sheet Metal Fabrication shops in Norfolk, VA. We have had parts made by Metal Concepts for work and they always come out per the CAD drawing. They do nice work. Not sure about any of the others. Can you find someone to measure the cap and make you a CAD drawing they can work from?(Craigslist, College drafting or engineering student, etc)?


https://www.google.com/webhp?sourcei...2&rlfi=hd:;si:


Metal Concepts Inc
Sheet Metal Contractor
1075 W 35th St
(757) 627-9101

Ace Sheet Metal Works
3115 Beachmont Ave, Norfolk, VA
(757) 625-3030

Baker Sheet Metal Corporation
Sheet Metal Contractor
3541 Argonne Ave, Norfolk, VA
(757) 853-4325

American Sheet Metal Corporation
Sheet Metal Contractor
2713 Colley Ave, Norfolk, VA
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Old 06-06-2016, 02:55 PM   #387
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Why can't you build the cap? It's pretty straightforward sheet metal work.

Here's the thought process: It's a straight translation from high to low, preserving the same angle of approach on each side of the roof. You're going to make a "patch" shape that fits between the two.

I mocked these dimensions up, they're not based on anything real. Each small grid unit is an inch, each large grid unit is a foot.

Shows the same part laid flat and curved around the roof.


Shows the part laid flat, top view, no dimensional skew.


Shows the framework lines from side view, no dimensional skew. Note how the curve is just "translated" x and y over.


Edit: Sorry, one more. The patch was "flipped over" (not mirrored, just upside down)

This illustrates how the patch is longer, than the 2 foot spacing of the ribs, to account for the angle.



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I've been calling and emailing around and haven't found ANYONE at all to do the front cap. Was hoping there'd be a willing sheet metal shop. Nah, all the ones around here simply sell roofing and call themselves "custom sheet metal" shops.
May have to actually get creative. Hoping Mudda Earth will post up a vid and save the day on this one!
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Old 06-06-2016, 04:14 PM   #388
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I've been calling and emailing around and haven't found ANYONE at all to do the front cap. Was hoping there'd be a willing sheet metal shop. Nah, all the ones around here simply sell roofing and call themselves "custom sheet metal" shops.
May have to actually get creative. Hoping Mudda Earth will post up a vid and save the day on this one!
Ha....I'll have a video up fairly soon on that. I'm still in process of getting sides up. I'm with arronsb on this one. It's definitely not difficult to accomplish this. I'll probably make some poster board templates and trace them to the sheetmetal and weld them in place. Then apply a good semi flexible paintable auto-body seam sealer to the exterior. Maybe seam seal the interior also, for some extra insurance of it not leaking.

Until I get the video up....Keep on whistling some cool tunes!
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Why can't you build the cap? It's pretty straightforward sheet metal work.

Here's the thought process: It's a straight translation from high to low, preserving the same angle of approach on each side of the roof. You're going to make a "patch" shape that fits between the two.

I mocked these dimensions up, they're not based on anything real. Each small grid unit is an inch, each large grid unit is a foot.

Shows the same part laid flat and curved around the roof.


Shows the part laid flat, top view, no dimensional skew.


Shows the framework lines from side view, no dimensional skew. Note how the curve is just "translated" x and y over.


Edit: Sorry, one more. The patch was "flipped over" (not mirrored, just upside down)

This illustrates how the patch is longer, than the 2 foot spacing of the ribs, to account for the angle.

I've tried not to bother my step-dad who still works at the fab shop, but maybe I can have him help me out. He's really good with this kind of stuff. Thanks for the excellent illustrations, man. I ALWAYS look forward to any input from you. Your responses are always well stated.

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Ha....I'll have a video up fairly soon on that. I'm still in process of getting sides up. I'm with arronsb on this one. It's definitely not difficult to accomplish this. I'll probably make some poster board templates and trace them to the sheetmetal and weld them in place. Then apply a good semi flexible paintable auto-body seam sealer to the exterior. Maybe seam seal the interior also, for some extra insurance of it not leaking.

Until I get the video up....Keep on whistling some cool tunes!
I shall do just that. Its raining cats and dogs and will be all night thanks to this tropical storm.
And thanks to you as well, you've been an inspiration, man.

Getting a good seal is CRUCIAL and my number one priority. I'd like to mimic how the factory would do it, as much as possible. Overlap, seal, and rivet is what I'm looking for.
You guys are right, I can probably pull this off myself!
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