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Old 06-06-2016, 05:12 PM   #391
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Yes sir you can do this yourself. I ain't as fancy on the computer as some of the others.
For sheetmetal work there are some tools you might not have that would help a lot if you go at it.
Hand tongs
Cheek bender
a good pair of snips
And a good pair of hand shears
A good jig saw and a good pair of rubber palm gloves.
It might take longer but to me the metal there and the right tools to work it is quicker than creating a drawing.
It might Meen a put the metal up secure mark it take it down to cut then back up again. But you won't get a better custom job than what you can do by fitting the metal in place.
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Old 06-06-2016, 05:32 PM   #392
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I stitch welded the entire seam across the roof on the lower and upper sections, and did not rivet the seam. After welding I grind it smooth, shoot some 2k primer, and tigerseal body seam sealer.

When making the template, I deliberately left about 1/8" of the new sheet stick up over the top of the old upper roof panel. This gave a great spot to run the bead, and when ground down flat with a flap disc provided a nice clean edge.

I'm 100% sure that if I ground all my rivets off the adjoining roof panels, the whole big slope transition thing would come out as one part and be fine.

If it helps, I didn't use a computer at all - I went to a paper store and bought a couple huge sheets of thick bond poster paper. I just laid it across the open gap where I wanted the metal at, and started trimming it down with scissors and xacto knife. I was able to use my clecos in the paper to hold everything into place. Thick bond paper pretty much acts just like sheet metal.

I only did one side, and just flipped my template for the other side. It fit perfectly on the first try, because the bus is surprisingly symmetrical.



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Getting a good seal is CRUCIAL and my number one priority. I'd like to mimic how the factory would do it, as much as possible. Overlap, seal, and rivet is what I'm looking for.
You guys are right, I can probably pull this off myself!
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I stitch welded the entire seam across the roof on the lower and upper sections, and did not rivet the seam. After welding I grind it smooth, shoot some 2k primer, and tigerseal body seam sealer.

When making the template, I deliberately left about 1/8" of the new sheet stick up over the top of the old upper roof panel. This gave a great spot to run the bead, and when ground down flat with a flap disc provided a nice clean edge.

I'm 100% sure that if I ground all my rivets off the adjoining roof panels, the whole big slope transition thing would come out as one part and be fine.

If it helps, I didn't use a computer at all - I went to a paper store and bought a couple huge sheets of thick bond poster paper. I just laid it across the open gap where I wanted the metal at, and started trimming it down with scissors and xacto knife. I was able to use my clecos in the paper to hold everything into place. Thick bond paper pretty much acts just like sheet metal.

I only did one side, and just flipped my template for the other side. It fit perfectly on the first try, because the bus is surprisingly symmetrical.
Yep....That's pretty much how I plan to do it!
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Old 06-06-2016, 07:42 PM   #394
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I've tried not to bother my step-dad who still works at the fab shop, but maybe I can have him help me out. He's really good with this kind of stuff. Thanks for the excellent illustrations, man. I ALWAYS look forward to any input from you. Your responses are always well stated.



I shall do just that. Its raining cats and dogs and will be all night thanks to this tropical storm.
And thanks to you as well, you've been an inspiration, man.

Getting a good seal is CRUCIAL and my number one priority. I'd like to mimic how the factory would do it, as much as possible. Overlap, seal, and rivet is what I'm looking for.
You guys are right, I can probably pull this off myself!
If you plan to use the "rivet it on method".....You may be able to cut the arched section of the roof leaving about an inch or so extra material forward of the rear rib on the raised section of hat channel, and aft of the forward hat channel.

Then you can slowly hammer and dolly down the Inch of sheetmetal forward of the aft hat channel and do the same on the forward hat channel, except hammer it up. You'll want to match them to the angle of the transition. You could then, use them like a flange to attach and rivet the new transition skins to.

Another method would be to use a shrinker/stretcher to make flanges to rivet to.
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Old 06-12-2016, 07:12 PM   #395
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Hey EastCoastCB!

Gonna take a few sessions and dig through your build post!
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Old 06-12-2016, 11:35 PM   #396
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Hey EastCoastCB!

Gonna take a few sessions and dig through your build post!
nice!
theres more to come!
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Old 06-13-2016, 05:27 PM   #397
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-eastcoastcb, if i can build a front transition cap you can too, you just gotta do it and not think you're going to f-it all up.
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-eastcoastcb, if i can build a front transition cap you can too, you just gotta do it and not think you're going to f-it all up.
Thanks a million, man. ANY encouragement is appreciated, folks!
Would it be too much trouble for you to post up some pics of it?
I'm starting to come around... I think I can do this. In the end, as long as it seals well and doesn't leak it will do.
I guess it was a fantasy to think I could just call someone out and pay them to make a nice, properly fit piece I could just rivet right on.
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Thanks a million, man. ANY encouragement is appreciated, folks!
Would it be too much trouble for you to post up some pics of it?
I'm starting to come around... I think I can do this. In the end, as long as it seals well and doesn't leak it will do.
I guess it was a fantasy to think I could just call someone out and pay them to make a nice, properly fit piece I could just rivet right on.

just like my dream that I could just call bergstrom and buy a new driver heater console since minw is a disaster mess..

yeah im building one i can do this..

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So- I woke up to a big red notice left on my carport by the city code enforcement dept... basically its condemned due to damage from recent rains. Its been deteriorating since I bought this place in 2010. This is exactly the kind of thing thats always made me want the BUS LIFE.
SO- for now, instead of raising the roof on a bus, I've been knocking down the roof on my carport.


This pic was taken about halfway through the demo phase today.
I'm sure any of you who may be following or reading through this thread know by know I'm an enthusiastic demo kind of person. I love ripping stuff apart!
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