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Old 05-28-2014, 02:57 PM   #51
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Another Crown conversion nut found in the hot California summers that one 13,500 btu roof air conditioner could not keep his interior comfortable. Now, comfortable is a relative term. For some people an interior in the mid-90's is OK. Not for me. If it is 105 outside, I want my bus interior to be in the 70's. That is why I learned from the earlier conversion on this site and super insulated the space between my roof and my interior headliner, insulated the sides, insulated the floor (in progress this week), putting 3M film on the windows to cut 60%+ of the heat transfer through the windows, and put two 15,000 btu air conditioning units on top. These units also have heat strips for the Winter, plus I have an electric fireplace going in that will also keep the interior toasty in the Winter months.

Every person's tolerance for temperature extremes is different. I am an admitted wimp when it comes to hot weather. I can bundle up when it is cold. But, you can strip off clothing only so far in hot weather before you have no cloths left and it is still too hot (scary thought and visualization).

So, as wmkbaily said earlier, the lessons learned from others is insulate, insulate, insulate. it can certainly cost you. However, the costs will be seem minor if you don't do it and the use of your skoolie is severely limited by unpleasant temperatures (either too cold or too hot).
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Old 05-28-2014, 07:05 PM   #52
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Ceramic beads on the roof and a long awning on each side (we got one side so far), an insulated roof rack in the future...no AC for us, we'll be drinking plenty of fluids I suppose. One thing we've found with the 3 inches of poly insulation in the walls is that, in direct sunlight on a hot day the outside of the bus will burn you, no where for the heat to dissipate to but back into the air, I can only imagine how cool our bus would be if we'd have foamed the ceiling and replaced the windows with a few well placed rv windows....we just wanted to maintain the school bus look from the outside, I'm sure gmarvel will be keeping his windows as well, they leak energy like no tomorrow but there's tons of trade offs with these projects I'm sure you're finding already, can't have it all.
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Old 05-28-2014, 11:19 PM   #53
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I hate to tell you but 90% or better of the rv windows out there are single pane as well. I have a trick for that though.
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Old 05-29-2014, 01:50 AM   #54
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Yes, we are keeping our windows. However we are using 3M tint to cut thermal heat and cold through the windows. We wanted to keep the bus look.
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Old 05-29-2014, 09:41 PM   #55
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I will also tint my windows out. Those which will be behind things will be sealed, screwed closed and sealed some more. The interior will be coated with black paint and then insulation then interior walls.

On another note, the floor is completely done and we began the tape trials of floor layouts. Next plan is to paper over the floors to protect it and then the roof gets our attention. We ended up with 16 boards left but we have decided to keep them for other build outs.
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Old 06-01-2014, 11:39 AM   #56
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OK so I just spent $400 on 2inch foamular for the roof. $37.90 per 4x8 sheet. I guess-timated at 8.25 sheets so I bought 9 plus great stuff in a can, self tapping sheet metal screws , and two sheet of plywood for my thermal break. The question now is how do I cut this and what to use to adhere it to the ceiling. They gave me some scaps they had on the partial pallet I bought for experimenting since they were nor willing to say 100% what adhesives would not melt the foam.
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Old 06-02-2014, 10:45 PM   #57
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I found the fastest and neatest way to cut the foam board is with a jigsaw and a fine tooth blade. It cuts like a hot knife through butter. Loctite has a rapid grab adhesive that is foam board compatible. Works pretty good. Cut the board just a hair wide and it makes a snug fit between roof ribs. A dab of adhesive and some masking tape holds it all in place long enough to secure it.
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I found the fastest and neatest way to cut the foam board is with a jigsaw and a fine tooth blade. It cuts like a hot knife through butter. Loctite has a rapid grab adhesive that is foam board compatible. Works pretty good. Cut the board just a hair wide and it makes a snug fit between roof ribs. A dab of adhesive and some masking tape holds it all in place long enough to secure it.

I used the fine tooth blade from my reciprocating saw, and did it by hand. It is very easy to cut and fit.
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Old 06-05-2014, 10:55 PM   #59
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I think the circular saw would throw way too much pink dust for my liking. The jigsaw is doing the trick just fine. We have an assembly line of sorts working on the cutting and marking of the foam board. I only get an hour or two a day to work on it. A flat on the wife's car killed one day and finding some cabinets at a good deal killed another, but some progress is better than none!
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Old 06-05-2014, 11:52 PM   #60
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The pink foam is so easy to cut... no power tool needed.... get 1 of these:

and 1 of these:

Mark where you want to cut and line it up with edge of square...extend razor about and inch and a half and slide it down the edge of the square cutting half deep on foam..... now run it again to finish the cut..... done!

JUST BE SURE TO KEEP FINGERS OUT OF PATH OF KNIFE!!
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