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Old 08-31-2009, 10:23 PM   #51
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Re: Scotts first bus

Scott,

I just registered on this site tonight, but have been on here several times over the last year. I've owned a tailgater for about 1-1/2 years and still enjoy toying with it. I have a 91 ford Carpenter 44 pass. I have 3 partners in it, but soon to own it myself because we're the only ones to use it. Stay positive with the work ahead of you on the bus, and it will be a labor of love.

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Old 09-04-2009, 01:25 PM   #52
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well it nice to hear from a professional bus driver and watch them work im sure your general bus knowledge is just heads over most others
so you have the practical now time for theoretical {new college class bus theory}
hope your pee making system is better.....
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Old 09-04-2009, 02:09 PM   #53
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Oh! If it were only so...
The extent of my knowledge is driving them, have learned a lot here and still have a long way to go.

This is the latest version of the plumbing I want to create for the ends of the black and grey water tanks.

I need to find a better drawing medium...

If I got the correct formula, 231 c.i. = 1 Gallon, then they should hold close to 105 gallons each. I just have to go weigh a gallon of water to see what the approx weight will be and then probably reinforce the stuffing out of my cargo holds, since this is where they will go.
I also have to come up with a floor plan I like to allow the terlet to be located amidships, since the plumbing to the black water tank has to run between the frame rails to avoid the fuel tanks mounted outboard.

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Old 09-09-2009, 03:01 PM   #54
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WOW! Thanks Smitty!

Anyone happen to know the rated weight capacity of the cargo bays under a 1984 Blue Bird All American 40 footer?
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Old 09-21-2009, 12:05 AM   #55
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Can't find anyone that knows weight limits on my cargo bays, so will err on the safe side and reinforce them. My local PUD gives away the empty wire spools and they have REAL long bolts holding them together. I am going to drill down thru the floor, thru the bay top, and into the bay bottom. this will let me hang the tanks on a frame made from angle iron and not sit them on the cargo bay floor. At least, that is the plan.

Will follow up with pics when it happens, or when it fails, either way.
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Old 09-25-2009, 02:34 PM   #56
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OK, finally got the rest of floor out, almost. I still have by front steps and under drives seat area.

I got a flash idea the other day (scary thought) and wondered if anyone had ever used truck bed liner on the floor before putting down insulation?

the idea being it is thicker than rust-o-leam and would give some measure of sealing. just roll it out with a regular short nap roller instead of the textureing one that comes with kit.

Any ideas?
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Old 09-25-2009, 07:29 PM   #57
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Might also look into Rhyno-lining... Spray in, never have to worry about it again. And, they can spray it thin or thick.

Down side, its a little expensive. But as an idea, its worth looking into. I have thoughts off spraying the outside of a bus instead of painting it. Never have to worry about scratches or repainting, and it is claimed that it even works as a minor insulation.
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Dont use bedliner, it isnt that durable and make it hard to get your subfloor level. After sandblasting, I used a good epoxy primer and a cheap 2 part urethane paint. It is tough as nails. In hindsight, I would have not used any rustoleum (or any air dry paint) on the bus. My ceiling is rustoleum and took awhile to harden and still scratches relatively easy where as the cheap 2 part urethane took quite a beating before it scratched. Not to mention, the rustoleum doesnt hold a shine very well.
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Old 09-26-2009, 01:27 PM   #59
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I had a buddy rhino line the outside of his jeep. It was perfect for rockcrawling the desert in New Mexico. No scratches. It has a little bit of texture to it, but actually looked pretty cool. Only problem would be if you ever wanted to change the color I would think. If you wanted a really really tough finish on the outside and were ok keeping the same color forever....it works really well. They can even make it have a semi gloss to it. Its not gonna be shiny and clear coat looking, but it is a different way of doing it, and it looked pretty good. Would be a giant pain to take off though I think if you wanted to do a different color.
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Old 09-26-2009, 06:55 PM   #60
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Yeah, its a permanent solution... But then again, As far as I know, so are the standard "Stick and Staple"s. Once sprayed on, its there till you scrape it off as it kinda binds onto the metal. I could be wrong, but I believe that on most "S&S", the graphics are part of the panel instead of a decal...

But on the upside, You can rinse the dirt and bugs off of it with no problems, it supposedly works as a minor form of insulation (external, at least a couple degree drop, nothing major), and it would seal up most of the body pretty well. And the best part, it comes in a bunch of colors. So you can have them spray several colors for your graphics...Replicate the graphics from a "S&S" on your skoolie for urban camo. ^.^

I like the idea cause it would mean never having to re-apply paint to the bus, ever. Quick cleaning, just hose it off. Durable, no scratches, minor dent resistance, UV protected. They even have a color rejuvenater that they can apply, or you can just buy it from them to do it yourself.
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