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02-10-2014, 05:43 PM
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#101
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Vacaville, Ca
Posts: 1,634
Year: 1988
Coachwork: Crown / Pusher
Engine: 8.3 Cummins
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Re: Senza Legno, Senza Pontilli
So what thickness of metal do people like to skin with?, talking sheet metal distributors here some recommend 18ga, some say 20 ga will be fine
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02-11-2014, 11:16 AM
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#102
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Houston, Texas
Posts: 8,462
Year: 1946
Coachwork: Chevrolet/Wayne
Chassis: 1- 1/2 ton
Engine: Cummins 4BT
Rated Cap: 15
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Re: Senza Legno, Senza Pontilli
I agree ...try to match what you have around the windows. And if you are riveting or welding directly you can avoid "oil canning" by pre-heating the sheets and keeping them around 125* (about the same as a hot shower) until secured at several points. A small propane torch is more than adequate. Never put sheet metal on "cold". The first time it warms up and expands you will not like what you see.
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02-14-2014, 10:44 AM
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#103
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Vacaville, Ca
Posts: 1,634
Year: 1988
Coachwork: Crown / Pusher
Engine: 8.3 Cummins
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Re: Senza Legno, Senza Pontilli
I've decided to go with .040" aluminum for skinning , what do you think of these rivets?
http://www.rivetsinstock.com/rivets/bli ... ivets.html
I know I need to but a barrier between the 2 different metals for corrosion purposes
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02-14-2014, 12:58 PM
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#104
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Houston, Texas
Posts: 8,462
Year: 1946
Coachwork: Chevrolet/Wayne
Chassis: 1- 1/2 ton
Engine: Cummins 4BT
Rated Cap: 15
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Re: Senza Legno, Senza Pontilli
Steel & aluminum need to be fully insulated from one another. Any area of contact is essentially a battery and both will oxidize very rapidly.
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02-23-2014, 11:04 PM
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#105
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Vacaville, Ca
Posts: 1,634
Year: 1988
Coachwork: Crown / Pusher
Engine: 8.3 Cummins
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Re: Senza Legno, Senza Pontilli
Not a whole lot to report, I did get doublers installed over the ribs this weekend
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03-09-2014, 01:52 PM
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#106
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Vacaville, Ca
Posts: 1,634
Year: 1988
Coachwork: Crown / Pusher
Engine: 8.3 Cummins
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Re: Senza Legno, Senza Pontilli
Trying to work on the bus but between work & the rain not getting very far, just wondering tho would treating steel & aluminum with por 15 be adequate for protection between dissimilar metals?
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03-09-2014, 09:29 PM
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#107
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Houston, Texas
Posts: 8,462
Year: 1946
Coachwork: Chevrolet/Wayne
Chassis: 1- 1/2 ton
Engine: Cummins 4BT
Rated Cap: 15
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Re: Senza Legno, Senza Pontilli
Nat is absolutely correct. You need total isolation of dissimilar metals and the Butyl tape is one of very few solid solutions. Anywhere they come in contact you have electrolysis and very rapid destruction of both metals.
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03-17-2014, 07:01 PM
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#108
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Vacaville, Ca
Posts: 1,634
Year: 1988
Coachwork: Crown / Pusher
Engine: 8.3 Cummins
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Re: Senza Legno, Senza Pontilli
Well, I was welding in the supports for the fwd section & the wire feed stopped working on my welder, the drive wheel doesn't move & I can hear something clicking, any quick ideas?
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03-17-2014, 07:28 PM
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#109
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Vacaville, Ca
Posts: 1,634
Year: 1988
Coachwork: Crown / Pusher
Engine: 8.3 Cummins
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Re: Senza Legno, Senza Pontilli
Oh & it's a Lincoln 125
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03-17-2014, 09:09 PM
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#110
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Vacaville, Ca
Posts: 1,634
Year: 1988
Coachwork: Crown / Pusher
Engine: 8.3 Cummins
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Re: Senza Legno, Senza Pontilli
Well I'm on hold until I get it working again, as far as doing a good job welding I discovered that purchasing a auto darkening & adjustable shade helped a lot in being able to see my work , not saying professional grade but a co worker who is also a licensed welder here on aircraft said they looked good, I do need to practice welding thin materiel a little more
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03-21-2014, 11:05 AM
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#111
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Vacaville, Ca
Posts: 1,634
Year: 1988
Coachwork: Crown / Pusher
Engine: 8.3 Cummins
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Re: Senza Legno, Senza Pontilli
Great more delay, threw a disk out in my back yesterday, cant move heading to chiropracter later today
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03-21-2014, 11:18 AM
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#112
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Feb 2014
Posts: 65
Year: 2001
Coachwork: bluebird
Chassis: bluebird
Engine: 5.9 Cummins
Rated Cap: 16
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Re: Senza Legno, Senza Pontilli
Love your roof raise.
Backs are overrated. Surely there's something you could be doing while laying on the floor?
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03-21-2014, 11:38 AM
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#113
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Vacaville, Ca
Posts: 1,634
Year: 1988
Coachwork: Crown / Pusher
Engine: 8.3 Cummins
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Re: Senza Legno, Senza Pontilli
Quote:
Originally Posted by orangepeel91
Love your roof raise.
Backs are overrated. Surely there's something you could be doing while laying on the floor?
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Yes, stare at the ceiling I'd laugh but it hurts
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03-21-2014, 11:39 AM
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#114
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Vacaville, Ca
Posts: 1,634
Year: 1988
Coachwork: Crown / Pusher
Engine: 8.3 Cummins
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Re: Senza Legno, Senza Pontilli
Quote:
Originally Posted by allwthrrider
Quote:
Originally Posted by orangepeel91
Love your roof raise.
Backs are overrated. Surely there's something you could be doing while laying on the floor?
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Yes, stare at the ceiling I'd laugh but it hurts
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And thank you
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03-21-2014, 08:07 PM
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#115
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Vacaville, Ca
Posts: 1,634
Year: 1988
Coachwork: Crown / Pusher
Engine: 8.3 Cummins
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Re: Senza Legno, Senza Pontilli
I was working on tying in the fwd section before my welder & back quit on me
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03-22-2014, 03:35 PM
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#116
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New Member
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 9
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Re: Senza Legno, Senza Pontilli
omg this build looks great need more its like a soap . Days of our bus.
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03-23-2014, 08:30 PM
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#117
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Vacaville, Ca
Posts: 1,634
Year: 1988
Coachwork: Crown / Pusher
Engine: 8.3 Cummins
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Re: Senza Legno, Senza Pontilli
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lord-Maniac
omg this build looks great need more its like a soap . Days of our bus.
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LOL thanks, or "as the bus turns", or As the Bus Burns" Or as my wife just said "The Nightmare On Albany St"
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03-24-2014, 07:02 PM
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#118
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New Member
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 9
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Re: Senza Legno, Senza Pontilli
lol for sure
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03-26-2014, 12:05 PM
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#119
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: MNT CITY TN
Posts: 5,158
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Re: Senza Legno, Senza Pontilli
okay it's been 6 days, you fixed yet?
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03-26-2014, 12:52 PM
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#120
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Vacaville, Ca
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Year: 1988
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Engine: 8.3 Cummins
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Re: Senza Legno, Senza Pontilli
Quote:
Originally Posted by bansil
okay it's been 6 days, you fixed yet?
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Moving around better but now it's raining so had to recover the bus plus my welder has not been returned yet
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