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04-20-2014, 01:45 PM
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#141
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Bus Nut
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Texas
Posts: 471
Year: 1988
Coachwork: Ward
Chassis: Ford B600
Engine: 6.6L Turbo Diesel
Rated Cap: 26
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Re: Senza Legno, Senza Pontilli
Sweet score!!!! Nice Gennie
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04-20-2014, 10:48 PM
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#142
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Vacaville, Ca
Posts: 1,634
Year: 1988
Coachwork: Crown / Pusher
Engine: 8.3 Cummins
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Re: Senza Legno, Senza Pontilli
Finished making supports and brackets this weekend, removed the cove panels & rubber flooring, any guesses what a 25' by 7' section of rubber might weigh ?
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04-21-2014, 09:38 AM
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#143
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Maryland / Boulder
Posts: 347
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas Built
Chassis: Saf-T-Liner MVP ER
Engine: CAT 3126b Rotella-Chugger
Rated Cap: 72
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Re: Senza Legno, Senza Pontilli
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Originally Posted by allwthrrider
Finished making supports and brackets this weekend, removed the cove panels & rubber flooring, any guesses what a 25' by 7' section of rubber might weigh ?
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Hundreds of pounds, that sh!t was unbelievably heavy when I took mine out!
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04-21-2014, 09:51 AM
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#144
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Vacaville, Ca
Posts: 1,634
Year: 1988
Coachwork: Crown / Pusher
Engine: 8.3 Cummins
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Re: Senza Legno, Senza Pontilli
Quote:
Originally Posted by porkchopsandwiches
Quote:
Originally Posted by allwthrrider
Finished making supports and brackets this weekend, removed the cove panels & rubber flooring, any guesses what a 25' by 7' section of rubber might weigh ?
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Hundreds of pounds, that sh!t was unbelievably heavy when I took mine out!
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Yes I'm leaning towards the hundreds also
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04-21-2014, 09:51 AM
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#145
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Vacaville, Ca
Posts: 1,634
Year: 1988
Coachwork: Crown / Pusher
Engine: 8.3 Cummins
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Re: Senza Legno, Senza Pontilli
Quote:
Originally Posted by porkchopsandwiches
Quote:
Originally Posted by allwthrrider
Finished making supports and brackets this weekend, removed the cove panels & rubber flooring, any guesses what a 25' by 7' section of rubber might weigh ?
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Hundreds of pounds, that sh!t was unbelievably heavy when I took mine out!
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Yes I'm leaning towards the hundreds also
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04-24-2014, 04:57 PM
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#146
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Vacaville, Ca
Posts: 1,634
Year: 1988
Coachwork: Crown / Pusher
Engine: 8.3 Cummins
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Re: Senza Legno, Senza Pontilli
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Originally Posted by allwthrrider
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After more thought I've changed my mind & will use steel, I'll have less dissimilar metal on metal , metal on aluminum that way
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04-24-2014, 06:59 PM
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#147
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Vacaville, Ca
Posts: 1,634
Year: 1988
Coachwork: Crown / Pusher
Engine: 8.3 Cummins
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Re: Senza Legno, Senza Pontilli
I want to cut this lip off the chair rail then fasten a 3in piece of plywood all the way down, Think there would be any serious structural issues?
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04-25-2014, 10:42 PM
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#148
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Vacaville, Ca
Posts: 1,634
Year: 1988
Coachwork: Crown / Pusher
Engine: 8.3 Cummins
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Re: Senza Legno, Senza Pontilli
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Originally Posted by nat_ster
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Wow, does anyone know anyone who's used it?
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04-25-2014, 11:31 PM
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#149
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Southern Maine
Posts: 337
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Re: Senza Legno, Senza Pontilli
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Originally Posted by allwthrrider
Kinda makes me wish I saw this before buying 1500 rivets
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You can always go into the "budget trailer" business....Nat's research indicated they would be in good company there.
Jus' sayin'
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04-26-2014, 03:52 AM
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#150
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Almost There
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 83
Year: 2000
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Re: Senza Legno, Senza Pontilli
Looks like there's a place that carries this 3M™ VHB™ Tape locally. I may give them a call and see how it prices out compared to the rivet option. Only using tape still has me a bit skeptical though!
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04-26-2014, 06:38 AM
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#151
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: EHT New Jersey
Posts: 1,134
Year: 2003
Coachwork: AmTran
Chassis: International 3000RE
Engine: T444E/AT545
Rated Cap: 75
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Re: Senza Legno, Senza Pontilli
Me, personally, I'd reinforce whatever's being mounted on the tape with screws or rivets. Because, just in case.
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04-26-2014, 10:10 AM
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#152
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Vacaville, Ca
Posts: 1,634
Year: 1988
Coachwork: Crown / Pusher
Engine: 8.3 Cummins
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Re: Senza Legno, Senza Pontilli
I could see using the tape say over the ribs & at the lap joints but just for a little piece of mind I think I would still use rivets along the bottom edge of the metal where it will over lap the top rub rail
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04-26-2014, 10:56 AM
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#153
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Houston, Texas
Posts: 8,462
Year: 1946
Coachwork: Chevrolet/Wayne
Chassis: 1- 1/2 ton
Engine: Cummins 4BT
Rated Cap: 15
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Re: Senza Legno, Senza Pontilli
Most folks would be surprised at what gets "glued together" these days. Trucks, cars, trains, aircraft, etc. The new gen adhesives are pretty amazing. Nearly 20 years ago I used an industrial adhesive made by Sika to attach new sections of roof skin at the front & rear of my BBAA after the roof raise. Properly cleaned & prepped the 1" overlap joints were much stronger and more durable over time than if welded or riveted. Can't recall the exact formula as they make a wide range of them. That one came in a caulk type tube. The tapes are a spinoff of the same technologies and are much easier to apply with consistency.
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04-29-2014, 10:06 PM
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#154
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Feb 2014
Posts: 65
Year: 2001
Coachwork: bluebird
Chassis: bluebird
Engine: 5.9 Cummins
Rated Cap: 16
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Re: Senza Legno, Senza Pontilli
Sikaflex! I know about that stuff. Never used it but holy cow what power. I know of one guy who reskinned his Eagle with it because he wanted a nice smooth look without rivits. He made a minor error involving droop over the length of it and had to cut out and replace sections of the structural tubing because he could not get the bonded sheet metal off it. I believe it was Sikaflex 262, or maybe 252. But loving the tape idea. Yet another idea I'm going to be stealing er I mean BORROWING for my own build.
At a buck a foot it ain't the cheapest option but I trust my ability with it far more than I trust myself with rivits. Should save a bunch of time too.
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04-30-2014, 08:17 AM
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#155
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: West Lafayette, IN
Posts: 832
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Engine: 3126
Rated Cap: 72
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Re: Senza Legno, Senza Pontilli
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Originally Posted by allwthrrider
Going back over your build did you use 16ga to skin over your window? if so now that it's done are you satisfied that you went that heavy or if you were to do it again would you go lighter?
Stuart
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Hey Stuart,
Sorry for the delay, I have been away for a while. I used the same gauge that the bus used 18GA on the sides, 16GA on the roof.
So far so good, we will see how it does in the summer heat.
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05-05-2014, 05:07 PM
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#156
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Vacaville, Ca
Posts: 1,634
Year: 1988
Coachwork: Crown / Pusher
Engine: 8.3 Cummins
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Re: Senza Legno, Senza Pontilli
Not much to report, been busy getting ground ready for crops
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05-18-2014, 09:06 PM
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#157
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Vacaville, Ca
Posts: 1,634
Year: 1988
Coachwork: Crown / Pusher
Engine: 8.3 Cummins
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Re: Senza Legno, Senza Pontilli
Picked up sheetmetal on Friday, took POR 15 to all the steel thats going to be covered up & treated rust areas & installed the panels in the rear areas, hope to finish the sides next weekend
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05-22-2014, 08:32 PM
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#158
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Vacaville, Ca
Posts: 1,634
Year: 1988
Coachwork: Crown / Pusher
Engine: 8.3 Cummins
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Re: Senza Legno, Senza Pontilli
I POR 15 both upper edges of the sheetmetal thats going into the overlap from the roof, tomorrow after work I build the Wmkbailey And the Journey Visvi 1999 Thomas MVP ER custom sheetmetal lifting & maneuvering device only I'm attempting to use 10ft sections, get to bed early tomorrow plus having a 3 day weekend & some luck I just might get something done this weekend
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05-23-2014, 08:14 PM
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#159
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: West Lafayette, IN
Posts: 832
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Engine: 3126
Rated Cap: 72
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Re: Senza Legno, Senza Pontilli
It is called the "Re-Skinning Steel Raising Machine"
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05-23-2014, 08:44 PM
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#160
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Vacaville, Ca
Posts: 1,634
Year: 1988
Coachwork: Crown / Pusher
Engine: 8.3 Cummins
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Re: Senza Legno, Senza Pontilli
Quote:
Originally Posted by wmkbailey
It is called the "Re-Skinning Steel Raising Machine"
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If I had a wood burner & would burn it into the
front
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