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Old 10-03-2013, 01:49 PM   #11
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Today I am going to try to remove the part of the seats that are still bolted to the floor by notching the bolt head and then chiseling it off, hopefully that works because nobody seems to want to help me (awesome right?).

To be continued...
I curious on how this goes. I removed my seats at the leg too and still have to remove the "foot". I have the same issue, no help.
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Old 10-03-2013, 02:01 PM   #12
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Nice work!! Those sure are good lookin buses, can't wait to see the progress on this one as well.
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Old 10-03-2013, 10:12 PM   #13
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Holy bandwidth, Batman! Those photos are HUGE! My monitor is over 2500 pixels wide and I need to widen my browser to full screen to see the whole image.

You might want to make those smaller to help the "less fortunate" among us. Most people recommend 800 pixels on the longest side for internet sharing.
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Old 10-04-2013, 12:59 AM   #14
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Welcome to this madness!
If you have your large bed in the back positioned sideways, the unlucky person to the back that has to pee in the middle of the night will step on you. Get camping cots and try them out in different places before you start building walls. I mounted our beds in the back and mounted them to E-track so they could be adjustable, bunked,
or removed for hauling etc.
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That is a good point. The plans I posted we probably aren't going to use. At some point I will mock up the floor plan with painters tape (perimeters) at least and maybe with cardboard fab ups.

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Holy bandwidth, Batman! Those photos are HUGE! My monitor is over 2500 pixels wide and I need to widen my browser to full screen to see the whole image.

You might want to make those smaller to help the "less fortunate" among us. Most people recommend 800 pixels on the longest side for internet sharing.
Yeah sorry...damn iPhones take huge pictures. This next batch I resized to 1024x768. I just zoomed out on my browser.

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Today I am going to try to remove the part of the seats that are still bolted to the floor by notching the bolt head and then chiseling it off, hopefully that works because nobody seems to want to help me (awesome right?).

To be continued...
I curious on how this goes. I removed my seats at the leg too and still have to remove the "foot". I have the same issue, no help.
Here's how it went...I started with these just like you did...



where I cut the leg off and this bit still remained.



I notched the heads with my trusty angle grinder (4.5" Hitachi electric one...I have put this $30 tool through so much BS and it still works flawlessly) and made sure I got through the larger flange part at the bottom of the head of the bolt. I then used an air hammer I bought at Harbor Freight for $14 (http://www.harborfreight.com/medium-...sel-69866.html) and "BAPPED" the rest of the bolt head off. I then "BAPPED" the bracket up and "BAPPED" the rest of the bolt down where most of them fell onto the ground. These air hammers are really useful and can be run (albeit intermittently) even with a small compressor. My 21 gallon Ingersoll Rand was running intermittently using it, though that is on a generator where the voltage isnt quite what wall current is.



Here it is after got all of them out. It took me about 3 hours and I went through about 10 cheap cut off wheels. ABSOLUTELY have a respirator and a fan on when doing this. Even with both of those I still blew my nose and it was black. This stuff is terrible for you. However, I dare say it was easier to do it this way than to do it with someone underneath with vice grips, because you can only get to about 1/2 of the bolts easily from underneath. My friends are dicks and wouldn't help so I had to do it this way.



It is really exciting to see this space all open. Next things to do are sand / prime the exterior, remove the windows and reseal the outsides, and re-insulate the roof and walls, then remove the rubber flooring. Then wire brush and rustproof the floor. Plenty of things to keep me busy...

Does anyone have any recommendations on what paint to use?
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Old 10-04-2013, 01:04 AM   #15
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As a side note, pickup trucks are really useful.





I got $120 for the steel from the seats. I didn't want to deal with selling them to someone so I ripped off the cloth and foam, threw it out and scrapped the steel.
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Old 10-04-2013, 12:54 PM   #16
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Cardboard fabups,
Your setbuilding days are gonna help you more than you think. Man, 19, wish I had done this at that age, lets see, cheap dorm, changeable views and not to mention locations. Your gonna enjoy that bus.
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Old 10-04-2013, 02:26 PM   #17
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where I cut the leg off and this bit still remained.



Does anyone have any recommendations on what paint to use?
Are most of the seat bolts on buses rusted to the floor? We used two socket wrenches and two people and got ours out pretty fast but it seems like a lot of people cut them.

And use rustoleum! it's cheap!

Good work, looks like you're buzzing right along!
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A lot of people cut them because they don't have help or some are hard to access. I used a wrench and socket on mine. I think I enlisted a kid, lol... And x2 for rustoleum. I wire-wheeled all rusted areas, spayed with rust converter, primed with "rusty metal" (red oxide) primer, and then painted with their "industrial" paint.
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Old 10-04-2013, 05:11 PM   #19
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Your setbuilding days are gonna help you more than you think. Man, 19, wish I had done this at that age, lets see, cheap dorm, changeable views and not to mention locations. Your gonna enjoy that bus.
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Yeah, I have wanted to do this for several years. I always thought it sounded like a cool idea. It's really awesome standing in the now empty space and envisioning all it could be. Also, after this is "finished" (who am I kidding, I will always be changing or fixing something) I will have a place I can call home that can be moved. It could be short term or long term housing. I could pay like $100 a month for rent to keep it on someones property vs $800+ for a house / apartment. AND it is an asset that can be sold for some amount of money, AND I enjoy working on it. Win-win-win-win.

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Are most of the seat bolts on buses rusted to the floor? We used two socket wrenches and two people and got ours out pretty fast but it seems like a lot of people cut them.

And use rustoleum! it's cheap!

Good work, looks like you're buzzing right along!
They aren't rusted to the floor, persay. I just don't have anyone to help me at the moment. My friends are either lazy bums who smoke weed and play video games all day, or they are out of state at college.

Is there a way of getting additional colors of rustoleum? I don't want to rattle-can it, and the gallon containers only come in like 8 different colors. I wanted to do an army green color for the body, but I haven't been able to find anything like that.

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A lot of people cut them because they don't have help or some are hard to access. I used a wrench and socket on mine. I think I enlisted a kid, lol... And x2 for rustoleum. I wire-wheeled all rusted areas, spayed with rust converter, primed with "rusty metal" (red oxide) primer, and then painted with their "industrial" paint.
Sir, this is EXACTLY what I am planning on doing. I haven't taken up the rubber floor yet but I have taken a few chunks out and it appears to be rusty where the bolts went through.

How do you guys deal with the bolt holes? I was thinking of JB welding / gluing 16 ga. steel on the inside side of the bus over the holes. I don't want to weld because there is rubber undercoating on the bus that will catch fire if I weld, and I will have to wire brush and recoat the charred bits. I thought gluing metal would be ok. Or even just sealing it since the lack of structure over the tiny hole is a non-issue.

Thanks!
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Personally, I opted to spot weld the dozens of holes in my floor. It is amazing how even the tiniest hole can deliver so danged much water over time. And since everything else winds up on top of the floor, I wanted it watertight as possible for as long as possible. It was a pain, but better one now than later in my book. Course, that's just me talkin'.
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