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Old 09-18-2014, 08:49 PM   #271
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Spider bite

Only other symptom was that the bite area was very hot/feverish, and raised. Thankfully nothing worse than an inconvenience.

Really impressed with what you have done with your bus
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Old 10-03-2014, 11:55 AM   #272
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I know what you mean, our roads are so rough and twisty/off camber I have a wall loose, I didnt realize 3 years ago the bus would flex so much, everything else I have built I leave a 3/8 or 1/2 gap to deal with roads now

you all had fun and thats important....picture was awesome of sunset
It is funny because when I was cutting the walls out I was concerned about them not being exactly perfect to the curvature of the ceiling, because I am not great with jigsaws. They ended up not being perfect and now I am glad they aren't!

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Only other symptom was that the bite area was very hot/feverish, and raised. Thankfully nothing worse than an inconvenience.

Really impressed with what you have done with your bus
I didn't get that. I took the stuff they gave me and it went away in like 3 days, it was weird. I ran an insect fogger in the bus shortly after. Thanks for the kind words!
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Old 10-03-2014, 12:01 PM   #273
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Soon I am hoping to get started re-installing the heating. I will be poring over wmkbailey's thread to figure out how he got his webasto to stay on indefinitely. I will reinstall the unit (took it out to rebuild it, it has been dome for quite some time). A month ago or so I rigged the unit up to the bus pumping water through a 5 gallon bucket just to make sure it worked, and it heated the 5 gallons of water from ~55 degrees to too hot to touch within 2 minutes! Should keep the bus toasty, after I figure out how I want to do the heat.

Plumbing will follow shortly, I was looking at these tanks: http://www.ebay.com/itm/46-Gallon-Roto- ... 8c&vxp=mtr

I was going to use 2 for fresh and 2 for grey. I abandoned the blackwater / toilet idea on this bus, I feel like, with the crew who would be on it, it would get too messy and be generally awful. If we go that far out of civilization to not have a bathroom, then you can **** in a field no problem If it becomes an issue I will look into a composter.

Does anyone see a problem with connecting the 2 tanks together for grey / fresh? I know you wouldn't want to do this on blackwater tanks however the threaded fittings on the tank are 1.5" ID and that should allow for enough flow between the 2 tanks that they are never not equal in fluid level. It just seems like a much cheaper way to get tanks, since I do not want to mess with barrels.
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Old 10-03-2014, 03:21 PM   #274
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Re: Smells Like Teen Spirit: Conversion of 1999 Thomas MVP

Porkchop,

Nice bus!

I'm new to the skoolie forum as i am still in the process of looking for a bus. Found a 95 sat t liner with a cummins 8.3 and 326,000km's on it (202,500miles), one rusted cross member on the floor. Thoughts?

About your tanks, I've put a few tanks in my dads old fish boat and we would connect the two so i don't see any problems there connecting the fresh together to "double" your tank size. I put shut off valves between the tanks.
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Old 10-03-2014, 03:33 PM   #275
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Porkchop,

Nice bus!

I'm new to the skoolie forum as i am still in the process of looking for a bus. Found a 95 sat t liner with a cummins 8.3 and 326,000km's on it (202,500miles), one rusted cross member on the floor. Thoughts?

About your tanks, I've put a few tanks in my dads old fish boat and we would connect the two so i don't see any problems there connecting the fresh together to "double" your tank size. I put shut off valves between the tanks.
I would go for it. Price? Rust doesn't bother me too much on these. It is much easier to fix / get around rust on a bus than it is on a car or light truck. It is flat panels of mild steel whic his super easy to fix, and the structural parts are too thick to rust through for the most part. The 8.3 cummins motor is excellent, great motor for this application. If / when my CAT kicks the bucket, I will look into swapping in an 8.3 Cummins. Mileage like that on that partcular motor wouldn't bother me but I would definitely try to learn something about that motor, like common failure points (if any) so you can see what needs addressed. I'd say it would be a good deal if the price is right. What trans? What rear gear ratio?
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Old 10-03-2014, 08:02 PM   #276
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Currently at auction with bidding closing on monday night, current high bid of 500cad. 5 speed Allison and don't know the gear ratio (working on getting specs from current owner). Engine is worth more than that on its own so its tempting just to get to seek the cummins.
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Old 10-03-2014, 08:40 PM   #277
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Rust doesn't bother me too much on these. It is much easier to fix / get around rust on a bus than it is on a car or light truck. It is flat panels of mild steel whic his super easy to fix, and the structural parts are too thick to rust through for the most part.
I thought the same thing.. and bought a rusty bus. In my opinion, look at that bus VERY closely! I spent more time than I would have liked dealing with rust. Hell, I still have to re-apply undercoating so I'm not even finished. It can consume much time that could have been spent on the actual conversion. Where in Canada are you located? If you're on the west or east coast you should be fine with a '95. If you're anywhere in between, tread cautiously. We dump truck loads of salt and chemicals all over our roads in the winter; which is 75% of the time these buses are driven. Look closely at the underside of the bus. Even smack the metal underneath with a hammer in a number of spots. It's a sure way to hear the difference in thickness of the metal. I had to replace 2 full cross beams which didn't look terribly rusted until I started wire brushing and the wire wheel went THROUGH the beam. I dealt with it, but wish I would have been building a bed, or a cabinet, or a bench instead.
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Old 10-03-2014, 08:41 PM   #278
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I'd also like to note that all the rot was right behind the rear wheels. That's where all the salty snow gathers and does it's nasty business. That's the place to thoroughly investigate.
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Old 10-03-2014, 08:44 PM   #279
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Oh, and also around the rear lights (brake, turn signal, back-up). The whole back panel on mine ended up being rotten. Easy panel to fit, but the rub rails have to come off to put it in place. Hmmm.. with that time I could have built a sky-light instead! Or a tank mount.. or.. or....
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Old 10-04-2014, 07:04 PM   #280
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Re: Smells Like Teen Spirit: Conversion of 1999 Thomas MVP

I have to say I am IMPRESSED with your conversion! You put a lot of thoguht into what you have done and have been able to do it on a very low budget.

I have several thoughts you might want to consider.

First, in regards to the toilet, if the only people you ever expect to go with you are male then not having a private toilet is not a big thing. If you ever expect female companions to go along with you and enjoy the fun then you better put in a toilet. When I purchased our first travel trailer my wife had three priorities, one of which was a working toilet.

Second, make sure the oil you use is not the LE (low emission) version of the DELO, Rotella, Ursa, Delvac, et all. If you have an engine that is pre-emission and you use the LE version of the oil you will greatly reduce the life expectancy of your engine because the LE versions have the ZDDP taken out of the formula. The ZDDP poisons catylitic convertors which is why it is taken out. The problem is the ZDDP is what keeps stuff lubed when the engine is shut off. Without the ZDDP when you start the engine you have vitrually no lube on the cam. No lube on the cam and very soon you have no lobes left on the cam. It becomes a particularly bad problem for RV's that sit a long time between starts--until you have oil pressure up you have cam followers riding metal to metal on the cam lobes.

Third, the only headlights that are worse than your square headlilghts are the rectangular quad headlights. Cibie and Hella make some aftermarket upgrades that are a lot better than the standard halogen headlight replacements you can get at AutoZone or O'Reilly's. I am surprised your projector lights didn't work. I am not surprised that the Thomas electrical harness wasn't up to the task. You definitely need to wire in a relay when you start using anything that uses much juice--the factory switch is not built to carry very many amps.

Fourth, in regards to licensing--I am not familiar with the specific laws in MD, DC, VA, and other places on the right coast. What I do know is how the law is applied in WA, OR, and ID. Regardless of the size of the RV, or the size of the RV and the trailer behind, all you need is a standard passenger car driver's/operator's licesne. There is no need for a CDL of any class if the vehicle is licensed as an RV. Even toters with tandem drive axles that would require a CDL in every other situation have passenger car plates and require only a passenger car license to operate. With one big caveat--if you go into Canada, British Columbia in particular, you have to have an air brake endorsement on your license. I had a long conversation with a weights and measures DOT inspector at the largest port of entry scale house in BC about air brake endorsements. Due to the narrow and steep highways of western Canada there has been a disproportionate number of accidents involving air brake equipped RV's. As a consequence they are red flaggin every vehicle that is air brake equipped that does not have a driver with an air brake endorsement--they do not move until an air brake endorsed driver is available to drive the vehicle. They were averaging more than one per week during the month of August and September. So as long as you are driving in the lower 48 or eastern Canada you should be okay.

Good luck and happy trails.

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