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Old 06-03-2014, 09:22 PM   #81
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Mine is a rats nest too. I have not had the courage to tackle it yet.
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Old 06-03-2014, 09:25 PM   #82
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I want to do the same on my bus, I am amazed at the rats nest of wires I found behind the dash panel. My temp gauge and fuel gauge are not functioning and I will be looking into getting those squared away. I hope to find a wiring diagram for the blue birds. The wires I have found each have a unique number which makes wire tracing easy. I find it hard to believe there is a need for this many wires on a mechanical bus. Mind blowing but I agree, simplifying it now will save time and energy later on.
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Old 06-03-2014, 09:54 PM   #83
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I have wiring diagrams for your bus.
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Old 06-03-2014, 10:26 PM   #84
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I haven't even gone under the dash yet. I looked while working on just the front and there's a lot of wires jammed up in there. Honestly, can't see why so much since the engine harness is basically hooked to the key and instrument cluster. Yea, between the decades of texas dust and wires and hoses, I just might remove about 500 lbs from this thing.
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Old 06-04-2014, 09:04 AM   #85
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My dash is a 1994 dash wired into a 1999 bus. It had a fire in the window wiper motor and melted a lot of the dash wires. There are many wires just hanging in mid air, but everything works.
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Old 06-04-2014, 03:05 PM   #86
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Hey William,

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My dash is a 1994 dash wired into a 1999 bus. It had a fire in the window wiper motor and melted a lot of the dash wires. There are many wires just hanging in mid air, but everything works.
Brother, when I was servicing boats, that kind of scenario was my nemesis. Trying to troubleshoot a mostly dead harness was a nightmare. I feel for ya is the time ever comes you have to trace something out. No telling how many extra connection there are to deal with.

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Old 06-04-2014, 04:49 PM   #87
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Same problem. Rat nest city in the overhead switch panel, main switch panel, at least cable run heading aft. All I know is, its going to be a damned headache tracing.


And I thought tracing the Cat-5 cables in my battalion's headquarters building when I was in Iraq was a nightmare...
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Old 06-04-2014, 05:33 PM   #88
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While I'm thinking of it and we're (sort of) on the topic:

For those who happen to be thinking of re-wiring a Thomas bus, mine had a chassis wiring schematic in the overhead compartment above the driver. The schematic shows the unique numbering and colouring of all the wire runs.. Supremely useful. I'll take a picture of mine and post it somewhere. The chances are they all have a similar set up.

For the engine harness and gauge wiring of a T444e, the wiring numbering and colouring can be found in the diagnostics manual: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ciqcql8xj...WiE86Gc47E9CJa
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Old 06-04-2014, 10:15 PM   #89
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Whew, this is another case of me being glad I got a bookmobile instead of a school bus. Since mine was built by a coach fabricator (Farber Specialty Vehicles, probably a one-off or one of only a handful) it had only the wiring needed, and I removed most of that since it was almost all for the generator, lighting, and electrical supplies in the bookmobile "house" section. The few wires required for the vehicle itself were very easy to find and avoid. I managed to re-use a lot of the removed wiring for my new 120VAC runs and it's good stuff: all 12-10ga stranded wiring in standard 120V colors, and even some 8ga (or was it 6ga? Might have been 6. It was big) stranded wiring that I used to link the shore power connector to the charger/inverter and circuit breaker panel.
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Do tell. Was it a FEMA prison bus or something like that ?
Maybe transferred Sasquatch's from the mother ship when seeding the planet?
Maybe Obama lived in it while in Indonesia?
Elvis owned it at one time (and has been seen driving it)?



All kinds of possibilities.
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