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06-05-2015, 10:36 AM
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#241
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 703
Year: 1995
Engine: DT408
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I am an sojourner in the earth; hide not Your Commandments from me. Psalm 119:19
Here is the patience of the saints; here are the ones keeping the commandments of YAHWEH, and the faith of Yahshua. Rev. 14:12
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06-11-2015, 06:42 AM
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#242
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 703
Year: 1995
Engine: DT408
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Just saw a documentary on foam insulation that went bad. Nasty stuff when it doesn't cure properly (even when done professionally). I was wondering what alternatives there are out there with similar R values? Any ideas?
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06-11-2015, 07:03 AM
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#243
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,764
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Foam board would be the next best thing, id imagine.
I saw the same show, I think.
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06-11-2015, 10:59 AM
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#244
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Stony Plain Alberta Canada
Posts: 2,937
Year: 1992
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: TC2000 FE
Engine: 190hp 5.9 Cummins
Rated Cap: 72
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You bring your bus to them, they spray it in the right environmental conditions.
The number of spray jobs gone bad is so small, I'm not even going to consider anything else.
That video needs to be taken down, or labeled as histarya.
One bad job out of half a million good jobs. All caused by the operator not making sure his equipment was mixing properly.
Ask for references. I have a guy I use for all my home builds. No issues to date.
Nat
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06-11-2015, 05:14 PM
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#245
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Skoolie
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Texas
Posts: 218
Year: 1997
Coachwork: AmTran
Chassis: Genesis
Engine: DT466
Rated Cap: 84
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Quote:
Originally Posted by nat_ster
The number of spray jobs gone bad is so small, I'm not even going to consider anything else.
That video needs to be taken down, or labeled as histarya.
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Fully agree.
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06-15-2015, 01:24 PM
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#246
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 703
Year: 1995
Engine: DT408
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Believe me, I'm not buying in to all the hype. Just asking for viable alternatives to spray foam. I'm not a fan of foam boards due to not addressing condensation issues and maybe even exasperate them by reducing air flow and drainage. There are many things I like about spray foam (noise reduction, if applied properly increase strength, and elimination of condensation altogether). That being said, and as good as the stuff is, it just seems a bit shortsighted that there's not a better way to insulate a metal container.
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06-15-2015, 01:50 PM
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#247
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Houston, Texas
Posts: 8,462
Year: 1946
Coachwork: Chevrolet/Wayne
Chassis: 1- 1/2 ton
Engine: Cummins 4BT
Rated Cap: 15
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Aerogel or Pyrogel...but it's a bit more costly.
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06-18-2015, 06:30 AM
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#248
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 703
Year: 1995
Engine: DT408
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Thanks for the info. Still a long way away but always thinking ahead.
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06-18-2015, 09:22 AM
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#249
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 703
Year: 1995
Engine: DT408
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I am an sojourner in the earth; hide not Your Commandments from me. Psalm 119:19
Here is the patience of the saints; here are the ones keeping the commandments of YAHWEH, and the faith of Yahshua. Rev. 14:12
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06-18-2015, 09:47 AM
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#250
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,764
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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damn you're an excellent fabricator and craftsman.
Impressive work, sir.
I love that bus.
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06-18-2015, 09:52 AM
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#251
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Houston, Texas
Posts: 8,462
Year: 1946
Coachwork: Chevrolet/Wayne
Chassis: 1- 1/2 ton
Engine: Cummins 4BT
Rated Cap: 15
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Outstanding workmanship! --- That should make for a lot of very usable space.
And like you, I'm gonna wait till everything under the bus is pretty much complete before I attach my new side panels.
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06-18-2015, 07:36 PM
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#252
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 703
Year: 1995
Engine: DT408
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Thanks everyone. The smaller square frames are for access for assemblies I'm building for the fuel fills and stabilizer jacks. I also scored some cool gas cylinders while in China for the storage bay doors.
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06-29-2015, 10:54 AM
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#253
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 703
Year: 1995
Engine: DT408
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Ok, I just got an estimate on the sheet metal to cover the cargo bag framing and roof raise. $128.00/5'x10' sheet of galvanized 16 ga. Needless to say, $1000+ is a bit, well,a lot more than I was planning on. Anyone have any more economical solutions?
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06-29-2015, 11:17 AM
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#254
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Oklahoma aka "God's blind spot"
Posts: 2,446
Year: 1989
Coachwork: 1853FC International/Navistar
Chassis: 35' Retired Air Force Ambulance
Engine: DT466, MT643
Rated Cap: 6 souls and a driver
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sojourner
Ok, I just got an estimate on the sheet metal to cover the cargo bag framing and roof raise. $128.00/5'x10' sheet of galvanized 16 ga. Needless to say, $1000+ is a bit, well,a lot more than I was planning on. Anyone have any more economical solutions?
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1) what are the rough dimensions of your vertical breaks?
2) are they consistent lengths between verticals? *hard to tell in pics.
3) how tall are the finished skirts going to be?
seems like with that rear taper, you'd be able to divide a sheet diagonally. and use the remainder of material on the other side.
I know this doesn't answer your "different solution" question.... but there's too many variables unknown. The dimensions might help some others brainstorm with you.
love the basement build!
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06-29-2015, 01:27 PM
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#255
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,764
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Want me to get my price?
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06-29-2015, 04:54 PM
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#256
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Houston, Texas
Posts: 8,462
Year: 1946
Coachwork: Chevrolet/Wayne
Chassis: 1- 1/2 ton
Engine: Cummins 4BT
Rated Cap: 15
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Really no need for galvanized. And it is a RPITA to paint (it has to be well etched to even accept paint) and toxic to weld. Just try to stay close to the original skin thickness with plain hot-rolled steel and it should be cheaper.
NOTE...I don't know about your year, but for a long time BB used an odd, proprietary sheetmetal...something like 15 gauge...16 will work fine.
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06-29-2015, 07:28 PM
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#257
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 703
Year: 1995
Engine: DT408
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I've got a 1995 AmTrans. The body panels are galvanized. I'm not planning on welding any of it. The wire I got was for having 5'x10' sheets sheared into 3'x10' & 2'x10'. I would then take the 2'material and brake a 1" flange along the edge. Most of the sheeting in the basement storage bays will be cut away for the door openings so even if I had a rigid material like a plastic or stiff like Formica would work. I'm not trying to stop bullets, just have something that looks nice. Not relying on the skin for strength either. That's coming from the framing.
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06-30-2015, 12:19 AM
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#258
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Stony Plain Alberta Canada
Posts: 2,937
Year: 1992
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: TC2000 FE
Engine: 190hp 5.9 Cummins
Rated Cap: 72
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No, steel just cost money. No way around it.
For me the entire bus is galvanized, so the sheeting steel I got was too.
I payed around $87 a 4x8 sheet of 14 Gauge.
Also the galvanized sheets were only $7 more per sheet. Not bad because they did not have to get painted right away, and a cheap undercoating.
Welding should never be a issue due to buses having the outer skin Riveted on, not Welded on.
Nat
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06-30-2015, 06:47 AM
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#259
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Skoolie
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Iowa
Posts: 120
Year: 1996
Coachwork: Honey Badger RV Co
Chassis: tc2000
Engine: 5.9 cummins
Rated Cap: 74
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Why not plastic sheeting ? The stuff they use for landfill liners comes in rolls and was at one time pretty reasonable. It comes in Black, however you could wrap it with vinyl afterwards. Just a thought.
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06-30-2015, 01:08 PM
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#260
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: Connecticut
Posts: 262
Year: 2003
Coachwork: International
Chassis: Amtran
Engine: T444E
Rated Cap: 71
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Call me crazy but everything on my bus functions and I have lots of work to do converting, I can't understand why extra wiring is so upsetting to folks, guess I'm from the "if it works don't fix it" camp.
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