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06-28-2018, 08:51 AM
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#401
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: Essex, MD
Posts: 3,738
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: Blue Bird TC RE 3904, Flat Nose, 40', 277" wh base
Engine: 8.3L Cummins ISC 260hp, MT643, 4.44 rear
Rated Cap: 84 pax or 1 RV; 33,000lbs
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Your CAC and my CAC are not the same. My CAC is a Common Access Card and gets me on the base to my bus but does not affect fuel mileage as it only weighs a few grams. I suppose with the lanyard and holder it could be as much as 3 or 4 oz.
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06-28-2018, 08:55 AM
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#402
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Grayson County, VA
Posts: 1,428
Year: 1996
Coachwork: Amtran
Chassis: International
Engine: DT466
Rated Cap: 65
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Brewerbob
My CAC is a Common Access Card and gets me on the base to my bus but does not affect fuel mileage as it only weighs a few grams.
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Charge Air Cooler. How do I know? I had to look it up too!
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06-28-2018, 09:00 AM
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#403
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Houston, Texas
Posts: 8,462
Year: 1946
Coachwork: Chevrolet/Wayne
Chassis: 1- 1/2 ton
Engine: Cummins 4BT
Rated Cap: 15
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aka; Intercooler
BTW...my local diesel techs put a factor of 10-15% improvement in power AND mpg's for an intercooled engine over non-cooled.
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06-28-2018, 09:14 AM
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#404
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Columbus Ohio
Posts: 18,708
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Carpenter
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: DTA360 / MT643
Rated Cap: 7 Row Handicap
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good call on checking the turbo cooler. evben pinhole leaks mean lost boost.. same with exhaust manifold gaskets.. esp on RE busses where you may never hear a small pre-turbo exhaust leak..
-Christopher.
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06-28-2018, 09:24 AM
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#405
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: Essex, MD
Posts: 3,738
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: Blue Bird TC RE 3904, Flat Nose, 40', 277" wh base
Engine: 8.3L Cummins ISC 260hp, MT643, 4.44 rear
Rated Cap: 84 pax or 1 RV; 33,000lbs
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Drew Bru
Charge Air Cooler. How do I know? I had to look it up too!
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I was military and I work on a military base. I purposely refuse to speak acronym but I also didn't know that one.
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06-28-2018, 09:31 AM
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#406
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Houston, Texas
Posts: 8,462
Year: 1946
Coachwork: Chevrolet/Wayne
Chassis: 1- 1/2 ton
Engine: Cummins 4BT
Rated Cap: 15
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BTW...
if anyone needs a top of the line CAC/Charge-Air-Coooler/Intercooler...
I have a Behr C9415 I can let go of cheap. Maybe a hundred bucks + shipping or pick up in Houston. Came out of a taco truck (P-30) and is plenty adequate for 3.9 to 5.9 Cummins.
Can provide pix & measures if interested. Just PM me.
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06-28-2018, 09:35 AM
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#407
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: Essex, MD
Posts: 3,738
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: Blue Bird TC RE 3904, Flat Nose, 40', 277" wh base
Engine: 8.3L Cummins ISC 260hp, MT643, 4.44 rear
Rated Cap: 84 pax or 1 RV; 33,000lbs
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tango
aka; Intercooler
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Aside from being a$$holes why can't the bus industry just call it that then?
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06-28-2018, 10:22 AM
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#408
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Andrews,Indiana
Posts: 2,430
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: AARE
Engine: 3116 Cat 250hp
Rated Cap: Just the two of us.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Brewerbob
Aside from being a$$holes why can't the bus industry just call it that then?
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Sorry, came out of the trucking industry, just assumed everyone knew what it was. I also hate acronyms, don't know what I was thinking.
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06-28-2018, 10:35 AM
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#409
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: Essex, MD
Posts: 3,738
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: Blue Bird TC RE 3904, Flat Nose, 40', 277" wh base
Engine: 8.3L Cummins ISC 260hp, MT643, 4.44 rear
Rated Cap: 84 pax or 1 RV; 33,000lbs
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Quote:
Originally Posted by somewhereinusa
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Just to avoid the confusion, I meant the engineer that came up with the name in the first place instead of using intercooler.
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06-28-2018, 12:18 PM
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#410
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Skoolie
Join Date: Feb 2018
Location: Central MN
Posts: 191
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: TC RE
Engine: 8.3L
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I knew what he was talking about after 45 years in trucking. Trying to learn bus terminology.
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GaryC
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06-28-2018, 12:34 PM
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#411
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: Essex, MD
Posts: 3,738
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: Blue Bird TC RE 3904, Flat Nose, 40', 277" wh base
Engine: 8.3L Cummins ISC 260hp, MT643, 4.44 rear
Rated Cap: 84 pax or 1 RV; 33,000lbs
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gustav
in trucking. Trying to learn bus terminology.
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Is there a difference?
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06-28-2018, 01:32 PM
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#412
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Columbus Ohio
Posts: 18,708
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Carpenter
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: DTA360 / MT643
Rated Cap: 7 Row Handicap
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navistar calls them 'Aftercooler'.. the DT-360 is a 'Diesel-Turbo 360 cubic inch', the DTA-360. is a Diesel-Turbo-Aftercooled 360 cubic inch'.... but later they dropped the designation as they were all 'Afrercooled'.. the label DT-466 on the side of a bus could mean either.. (you just had to look through the grill to see.).. grrr.. manufacturers and their designations..
-Christopher
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06-28-2018, 01:43 PM
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#413
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: Essex, MD
Posts: 3,738
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: Blue Bird TC RE 3904, Flat Nose, 40', 277" wh base
Engine: 8.3L Cummins ISC 260hp, MT643, 4.44 rear
Rated Cap: 84 pax or 1 RV; 33,000lbs
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cadillackid
.. grrr.. manufacturers and their designations..
-Christopher
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Upon further thought, I'm not even sure I want to blame the engineers. A larger part comes from the marketing weenies.
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06-28-2018, 02:11 PM
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#414
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Skoolie
Join Date: Feb 2018
Location: Central MN
Posts: 191
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: TC RE
Engine: 8.3L
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Yes, bus terminology. hehe
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GaryC
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08-05-2018, 03:45 PM
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#415
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Andrews,Indiana
Posts: 2,430
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: AARE
Engine: 3116 Cat 250hp
Rated Cap: Just the two of us.
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Finished the slide outs for the pantry. Well almost, as usual I have to put doors on, still haven't got any of the other doors done but, why rush into things. Anyway, I gained a ton of space over the temporary drawer thing I had.
This is looking from the kitchen
Looking from the bathroom, some shelves are accessible from either side.
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08-05-2018, 06:06 PM
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#416
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: N.C.
Posts: 1,136
Year: 1997
Coachwork: Bluebird
Engine: DT466E
Rated Cap: 34
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Quote:
Originally Posted by somewhereinusa
Finished the slide outs for the pantry. Well almost, as usual I have to put doors on, still haven't got any of the other doors done but, why rush into things. Anyway, I gained a ton of space over the temporary drawer thing I had.
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Nicely done.
Are those standard drawer slides, or the heavy-duty version? And how much do you think that whole door/drawer weighs?
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08-05-2018, 06:28 PM
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#417
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Andrews,Indiana
Posts: 2,430
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: AARE
Engine: 3116 Cat 250hp
Rated Cap: Just the two of us.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by plfking
Nicely done.
Are those standard drawer slides, or the heavy-duty version? And how much do you think that whole door/drawer weighs?
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The slides are 100# a pair, I added a third one. There is a slide top and bottom sideways to eliminate sway when extended. The shelf weighs 40# and a case of water about 35#. I think the third slide is enough margin of safety.
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08-05-2018, 07:23 PM
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#418
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: N.C.
Posts: 1,136
Year: 1997
Coachwork: Bluebird
Engine: DT466E
Rated Cap: 34
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Quote:
Originally Posted by somewhereinusa
The slides are 100# a pair, I added a third one. There is a slide top and bottom sideways to eliminate sway when extended. The shelf weighs 40# and a case of water about 35#. I think the third slide is enough margin of safety.
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I think you'll be fine.....always good to overspec a little.
And thanks for the info. It will come in handy when I start building my interior.
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08-05-2018, 07:24 PM
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#419
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: So Cal
Posts: 3,226
Year: 1935
Coachwork: Superior
Chassis: Chevy
Engine: 317 ci/tid / Isuzu
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Nice design. The top and bottom slides will add a lot of stability. Jack
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08-06-2018, 06:56 AM
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#420
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: Essex, MD
Posts: 3,738
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: Blue Bird TC RE 3904, Flat Nose, 40', 277" wh base
Engine: 8.3L Cummins ISC 260hp, MT643, 4.44 rear
Rated Cap: 84 pax or 1 RV; 33,000lbs
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Quote:
Originally Posted by somewhereinusa
The slides are 100# a pair, I added a third one. There is a slide top and bottom sideways to eliminate sway when extended. The shelf weighs 40# and a case of water about 35#. I think the third slide is enough margin of safety.
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If the slides are top and bottom, where's the third one?
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