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Old 05-11-2007, 09:31 PM   #31
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Well, shoot dang I was rootin' for Elliot to convince you. You do know that raising the roof could actually make the box stronger, right? As soon as I get started on my bus in the next year or two (cough, cough) I'm gonna follow Elliot's lead and raise the roof on that puppy...By then Les will hopefully have his raised with excellent documentation (and he has the lowered roof like ours). Set the precedent! Raise the bar... I mean roof!!! Stand up like a real man and actually reach up to those overhead cabinets instead of looking down into them!!! Well, okay, I'll simmer down... them guvurnment people and insurance companies just get me riled up a little bit, you know? I mean, that bus would look mighty fine with a raised roof!
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Old 05-11-2007, 09:49 PM   #32
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YES i AGREE IT WOULD LOOK REALLY NICE WITH A RAISED ROOF, AND IT WOULD MAKE LIFE MORE COMFORTABLE FOR ME TOO. (UUPS LOCK IS ON) i'm not yelling )
But I dont think I'm ready to tackle this yet.
Today I started to rip the old floor out, talk about frustration, way to many screws and none of them wanna come out easy.
My inside lenght from the back window to the rear of drivers seat is 35"
outside lenght bumper to bumper 40", so no different from yours, dont know why Thomas put 90 pAX on the label.
An other frustration I have is that I live way to far up north and no quick access to any RV dealer or salvage yard that has RV's trailers or similar. We arent even permitted to shop, scavange at the dump anymore.
About 10 years ago i billed a wood shed and toolshed all with material from the dump, then about 7 years ago they stopped any taking out of things from the landfill. sucks...
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Old 05-11-2007, 10:27 PM   #33
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I understand. I used to live in Norway, and the vehicle rules there were draconian.

But I bet you could build the interior so the roof can be lifted later -- just avoid any
inaccessible wiring, plumbing or permanent structures in the appropriate areas.
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Old 05-12-2007, 08:20 AM   #34
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40 feet=the maximum length a bus can be

They get labeled differently because....well.....they have different numbers of seats in them. The government loosely mandates a minimum and a maximum space between the seats as well as behind the rear seat and in the front around the stairwell. In this way the same chassis might be used for several seating configurations. When I was in school we had 40 foot conventionals rated from anywhere from 66 to 78 passengers. You can imagine which ones I preferred at 6'5"
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Old 05-12-2007, 12:19 PM   #35
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Hmm- that is interesting that it's labeled 90 pax. With the wheelchair door it seems that it would be rated less to make more room. However, I still think your bus is slightly longer- you've got a little window behind the driver's side window that I don't have (mine has the same emergency door on that side & the regular windows are the same) and my bus actually measures slightly over 39'. Not a big deal but worth mentioning I guess.
It is inspiring to see you tackle the project with gusto! We're in the process of moving so it's real frustrating to my wife and I that we haven't been able to do anything on the bus. We were hoping to hit the road cross country in June but there ain't no way! Once we get moved it'll be great, though. The bus will be parked in front of a spacious workshop and I will have zero excuses to get cranking on it! So, it's encouraging to read your updates!
Yeah, I am fortunate to live in an area w/ laid back regulations. I've rounded up all my paint and a friend has donated a roof A/C he's not using. With the Amish sawmills around I can buy a variety of wood for cheapcheap (I want a rustic wood interior). I would think that you could get your wood up there cheap too, can't you?
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Old 05-12-2007, 02:53 PM   #36
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yeah the wood isnt the problem, got lots of that around. its all the other things that I have to get that dont grow on trees
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Old 05-17-2007, 02:16 AM   #37
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well we decided to rip the old floor up because I kind of suspected that there would be moister under there. And sure enough there was moister between the lino and the floorboards. We only got as far as lifting the first sheet of plywood today but it doesent look to good under there. Moldy and rusty. No holes just surface rust so far. I hope it stays that way with the rest of the floor. This i can still fix.
Just wondering why there is so much moister in this bus? It didnt seem to have any leaks when I drove it home and that was on a pretty rainy day. Could the roof be leaking and all the water seep inside the walls under the floor without ever showing up on the inside of the bus?
I try to figure out if I should rip all the sidepanels off the walls too, just to see whats underneath, but I'm shying away from all the thousands of screws, since they dont come out easy.
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Kids with wet boots all winter is what I figure. I had the same type of rust (though not as bad). It was worse along the sides because the wood didn't go all the way to the wall and there was nothing sealing the rubber flooring up either. You have to figure that water works in from the wet boots and never really gets a chance to dry after months and months, year after year. I just pulled all mine up, wire wheeled the bad areas, and gave it a good THINK coat of industrial oil based primer after I had scrubbed with TSP. It is my sincere hope that the single piece vapor barrier I put down that extends up all the walls will be enough to prevent that from ever happening again.
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What kind of vapor barrier did you use? How thick was it?
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I just bought a generic clear poly vapor barrier. I can't honestly remember if it was 4 or 6 mil, but it wasn't tearing. Heck, it was hardly cutting. I bought it at L&M Fleet Supply which is a pretty local thing, but anyone who carries products from Midstates Distributing including Mills Fleet Farm, Tractor Supply, etc. There was literally an entire aisle and it was really just a matter of finding the correct sized rectangular piece for the floor and getting a thick enough one. Like I said, mine was one solid piece.
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