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Old 02-16-2017, 11:20 AM   #41
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Hey...ya gotta have a place to put 46 bicycles, a flame organ, three solar powered dirigibles and 24 naked women. We're talking Burning Man here!

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Hey...ya gotta have a place to put 46 bicycles, a flame organ, three solar powered dirigibles and 24 naked women. We're talking Burning Man here!
I must be getting older... Out of all that the flame organ is what I would pay to see!

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Old 02-16-2017, 12:41 PM   #43
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You left out the naked men, of which I am one.

Alas, I bring only a plain regular piano.

But more like 70 bicycles.
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Is this what you are looking to purchase?

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Old 02-18-2017, 12:56 PM   #45
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That's one of many that I have in mind. But I have not contacted them. Montana is awful far, and this is not a good time of year to travel that far north.

But except for the Cat 3208, it's the right kind. And it's an AA, which is a big plus.

For the same $2,500 I can get a 1994 with 5.9 in Oregon, but it is not an AA.

Also considering the Washington auction bus, and others.

Not in a hurry.

The 3208 that will not start is a completely different project -- unrelated to Albatross. That one is a genuine Wanderlodge.
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Old 02-20-2017, 07:23 PM   #46
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Did I neglect to post the chain drive idea?
A simple shaft sticking out of the bow below the "jet intake". Operate by hand crank or electric motor -- windshield wiper motors from cars are great for such.
Combine with dragster blower intake in earlier illustration, and the look would be complete.

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Old 02-20-2017, 07:58 PM   #47
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is this thing going to be built to be a real traveller or just a Burning Man novelty?
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Put some big fan blades in there hooked to a generator for OTR power gen.
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Albatross will be for normal traveling, just like Millicent. Using her as a Mutant Vehicle at TTITD would be a bonus.

Creating a net gain of energy with a windmill by pushing the windmill thru the air with a diesel engine would constitute a perpetuum mobile -- which cannot exist.
See... they did send me to school for a while!
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or just have a wiper motor with a rubber tire up against the spoked rim to make it turn.
No chains and sprockets needed.
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Albatross will be for normal traveling, just like Millicent. Using her as a Mutant Vehicle at TTITD would be a bonus.

Creating a net gain of energy with a windmill by pushing the windmill thru the air with a diesel engine would constitute a perpetuum mobile -- which cannot exist.
See... they did send me to school for a while!

thats my style!! build it for real and not just a mutant.. now this project has my interest for sure
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Old 02-22-2017, 10:33 AM   #52
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I'm approaching convinced that BB makes (made) different window sizes. Not concerned about height, but length. (One might also say window "width".)

Millicent measures 28", center to center of the window posts. Note... center to center -- not the window itself, which is a tiny bit less.
Put an other way, the full roof panels measure 56" and span two windows.
My Blue Bird CSRE body has a healthy mix of 28" and 35" center-to-center spacing. In the front and the rear there are pairs of 28" and 35" adjacent with a big horizontal slider window filling the entire space. In the middle of the bus there are about four 28" consecutive. I think they'd have used the 28-35 pairing all the way down if not for the rear service door, just forward of the rear axle. The rib spacing is all 28" in the mid section to accommodate the width of the rear service door.
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Thanks. Yeah, now that I'm paying attention to it, I see that most BBs have a combination of window lengths.

As for the chain drive idea... it would not be there for its mechanical function.

Visited a complete Albatross yesterday, at the same air field mine came from. It is being stripped of parts, slowly but....

The "engine hood" -- the hatch on top of the nose -- is missing, which suggests there is a demand for those, so I probably shouldn't hope to find one. So... oversize dragster blower intake, yes.

I sure wish mine had been cut four feet further back, because by that point the walls are vertical straight up. But I shall not let that keep me awake.
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At this stage, it's all about brainstorming.
There are several reason to tilt the bird forward, using the cut (which parallels the back wall) as the original vertical.

Forward visibility is one reason, but the swooping curve of the bottom edge also matters. I foresee making side skirts that continue that line in a long slow arc to the rear wheels.

But... an angled bird/bus splice is sure to look wrong.

Well, guess what a few feet of dark tape can fix.



By creating a new vertical, all looks just fine, and she loses only about 6 inches of length at the bottom. Though, I doubt I would remove any of that lovely line along the bottom, since this will be below the bottom edge of the bus body.

In this position, the bottom is horizontal at about two feet forward of the cut.

This is 4 degrees. I might even try a couple degrees more.

The roof becomes more difficult with every degree, but if I fail to create a nice transition, I will hide it with a deck or something... maybe a conning tower! LOL.

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At this stage, it's all about brainstorming.
There are several reason to tilt the bird forward, using the cut (which parallels the back wall) as the original vertical.

Forward visibility is one reason, but the swooping curve of the bottom edge also matters. I foresee making side skirts that continue that line in a long slow arc to the rear wheels.

But... an angled bird/bus splice is sure to look wrong.

Well, guess what a few feet of dark tape can fix.



By creating a new vertical, all looks just fine, and she loses only about 6 inches of length at the bottom. Though, I doubt I would remove any of that lovely line along the bottom, since this will be below the bottom edge of the bus body.

In this position, the bottom is horizontal at about two feet forward of the cut.

This is 4 degrees. I might even try a couple degrees more.

The roof becomes more difficult with every degree, but if I fail to create a nice transition, I will hide it with a deck or something... maybe a conning tower! LOL.

I love planning.
I am not sure you said why, but why a fe bus?
Seems like in an re you could strip the entire front down to the frame rails, rebuild the captains seat, maybe a relief cut on the top to give you those couple of inches to mate the bird to the bluebird.


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Even with a pusher, the front bus body would be cut away, and the bus controls installed in the aircraft cockpit. Not really any difference. And there is plenty room for the engine in the bird body.

I have toyed with the idea of moving the engine rearward a few feet, but that looks to be unnecessary.

The engine is not a problem. The wheels are. It looks like it is unavoidable to cut wheel-wells in the bird.

More specifically... why not a pusher? Because...

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Even with a pusher, the front bus body would be cut away, and the bus controls installed in the aircraft cockpit. Not really any difference. And there is plenty room for the engine in the bird body.

I have toyed with the idea of moving the engine rearward a few feet, but that looks to be unnecessary.

The engine is not a problem. The wheels are. It looks like it is unavoidable to cut wheel-wells in the bird.

More specifically... why not a pusher? Because...

You have a vision, and I can't wait to see it realized

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No need to wait. I already did this ten years ago. "Proven technology".



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No need to wait. I already did this ten years ago. "Proven technology".[emoji3]

That tric looks like fun!

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