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Old 06-11-2019, 11:53 PM   #32
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1. The ceiling is attached with screws, not rivets. Still trying to decide if it's worth removing it to insulate, since I'm adding a deck and plan to insulate between it and the room.
Also, I kind of like the way the perforated metal looks in white on the ceiling. I could also cover it with that thin "luan" stuff, but think I prefer the white.



2. Pretty sure I'm leaving the floor as is. It's a Scottsdale bus (desert) and the floor is immaculate. There is no rust anywhere on that bus.

It's also covered with those tie-downs, which I hear are an absolute hell to remove. Figure I can use them to tie down the furniture, and throw a rug or even a wood walkway down the center.


I will probably remove the rubber coating though.



3. The A/C units are coming out-because they are huge and also useless. Need to figure out how to do that without causing myself death or serious injury.


4. The heaters are coming out as well-because they are in the way and not too useful. I'd rather install a mini wood stove.


5. I will be closing in the main entrance, chopping out the stairs, and using that as storage. I need to figure out how to throw a floor over that area and install a passenger seat for my wife. This area will double as the passenger area and office.


The main entrance will then become the steel door where the lift is now. I will have to remove that lift (and hopefully sell it) , and manufacture a fold-down step.



6. I noticed that environmental temperature has a HUGE effect on the buss' ability to run cool and not overheat. I have the following idea: Install a second radiator using the line that goes to the heater. The valves will allow me to shut flow during winter, but have extra during summer.


Placement of the second radiator ideas:
a. On top of hood, with a custom louver fitted with a powerful fan to blow air through it.


b. Install overhead with a similar enclosure and fan.


7. Strong fans on each side of the hood, in custom enclosures, to blow air into the engine compartment. I figure blowing down, as up would move air off the blistering roads.



8. Mentioned it before, but will be removing the lift and hopefully selling it. It works perfectly, and I even thought of using that as basically an "elevator" to get in and out. But that seems ridiculous with how slow it is, and I hate depending on that to get in and out each time.



I considered relocating the lift to the back door, to use for whenever necessary, but again, it's really a waste of time, effort, space, and weight.



I have video, which will go on youtube once I get the chance to edit it together.


9. One last thing: I may rename the bus. I like "The Argo", but at the same time it seems not that unique a name, and the legend has the ship killing its captain. So I'm thinking of another name-maybe.
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Old 06-12-2019, 02:17 AM   #33
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Old 06-12-2019, 06:04 AM   #34
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Christ on a cracker, that was just terrible!!!
(naughty pun, I like it. )

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Congrats on successfully navigating your acquisition home! Now then, a coupla notes...
Luaun is friable stuff, 1/8" will splinter or crack if you look at it sideways. Using it on my ceiling, and getting a clean fit onto the curves is a chore.
The main thing holding up on my installing a roof deck is most insurers disallow such structures. It's hard enuf insuring a Skoolie, be certain before you whip out your big deck...
Gonna add comments in bold to your original from here, too lengthy to keep going back n forth.

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1. The ceiling is attached with screws, not rivets. Still trying to decide if it's worth removing it to insulate, since I'm adding a deck and plan to insulate between it and the room.
Also, I kind of like the way the perforated metal looks in white on the ceiling. I could also cover it with that thin "luan" stuff, but think I prefer the white.



2. Pretty sure I'm leaving the floor as is. It's a Scottsdale bus (desert) and the floor is immaculate. There is no rust anywhere on that bus.

It's also covered with those tie-downs, which I hear are an absolute hell to remove. Figure I can use them to tie down the furniture, and throw a rug or even a wood walkway down the center.


I will probably remove the rubber coating though.

You might want to seriously consider insulating the floor, lest the A/C's chill leak away thru it.
Speaking of which- you'll either need to hire an HVAC cat to come out to suck the refrigerant from your system, or invest in the gear to do so yourself


3. The A/C units are coming out-because they are huge and also useless. Need to figure out how to do that without causing myself death or serious injury.


4. The heaters are coming out as well-because they are in the way and not too useful. I'd rather install a mini wood stove.
Might wanna reconsider doing that until you've addressed the overheat situation.
Its a messy, complicated evolution, not to mention that you can currently improve engine cooling by firing them up.


5. I will be closing in the main entrance, chopping out the stairs, and using that as storage. I need to figure out how to throw a floor over that area and install a passenger seat for my wife. This area will double as the passenger area and office.


The main entrance will then become the steel door where the lift is now. I will have to remove that lift (and hopefully sell it) , and manufacture a fold-down step.



6. I noticed that environmental temperature has a HUGE effect on the buss' ability to run cool and not overheat. I have the following idea: Install a second radiator using the line that goes to the heater. The valves will allow me to shut flow during winter, but have extra during summer.


Placement of the second radiator ideas:
a. On top of hood, with a custom louver fitted with a powerful fan to blow air through it.
This sounds like a plumbing nightmare, routing hoses so as to not impede opening the hood. Not to mention that fiercesome AZ Sun pounding down on it.

b. Install overhead with a similar enclosure and fan.


7. Strong fans on each side of the hood, in custom enclosures, to blow air into the engine compartment. I figure blowing down, as up would move air off the blistering roads.

That might work, even several feet above grade, particularly pavement, while won't be cool will be cooler...

8. Mentioned it before, but will be removing the lift and hopefully selling it. It works perfectly, and I even thought of using that as basically an "elevator" to get in and out. But that seems ridiculous with how slow it is, and I hate depending on that to get in and out each time.



I considered relocating the lift to the back door, to use for whenever necessary, but again, it's really a waste of time, effort, space, and weight.



I have video, which will go on youtube once I get the chance to edit it together.


9. One last thing: I may rename the bus. I like "The Argo", but at the same time it seems not that unique a name, and the legend has the ship killing its captain. So I'm thinking of another name-maybe.
Howzabout, Arslow..?
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Picked up the bus yesterday morning at AAA Bus in Phoenix and drove her up to the white mountains!


Tony and Joe down at AAA were great and very helpful!


My first time driving a school bus was driving this one out of the lot at AAA! It was a BRUTAL 110+/- in Phoenix by the time we set out, and it didn't ease up until we got to higher elevation a few hours later.



I had to go slow because the bus threw an overheating alarm on the highway, which scared the hell out of me! Backing up on the throttle quickly brought the temperature back down, but I wasn't happy having to average 40mph on the highway.


Going up the steep grades was a royal PIA, because of the discomfort from the heat, 20mph, and having to constantly monitor the temperature gauge-not to mention the NOISE!


Still, by the time we got to Payson, the temperature had dropped considerably and I was able to make more time-except for pulling up that last mountain heading to Show Low, which was 20mph all the loooong way up.



The more I look at this bus, the more inspired I get! She's a blank canvas just waiting to be personalized!
What?
It sounds like you got a bus that overheats easily. I'd be calling the wonderful dealer and asking why its overheating going 40 on the highway.
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Old 06-12-2019, 09:21 AM   #36
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Old 06-12-2019, 09:42 AM   #37
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FLOOR:

I keep hearing that removing those tie-down channels is a nightmare. Is there a less hellish way of removing them? Is there a special tool? I see what looks like simple allen bolts-but are they lock-tighted in?



Also, I figured that a good rug would insulate the floor pretty good. Am I wrong?



HEATERS
My original thought was to move the heaters outside somehow, like underneath, to use them as an extra radiator. Using them inside would turn the bus into an oven.


RADIATOR
On top of the hood I was thinking of the extra radiator on a hinge that allows it to lift up to allow the hood to be pulled forward. The cover would be easily removable. I'd have to plumb the lines so they don't interfere with the hood, but they're already sort of out of the way by going inside the bus to the heaters.


The Arizona sun would be blocked by the louver covering the radiator. There would be openings for the air to escape, but the sun will not be hitting the radiator directly.


Another position idea is up above the windshield, with a custom cover. But will the water pump get strained pushing the water up that high is the question. With the heaters removed and not having to push all that water around the bus, I figure it would be fine. But then, I'm no bus guru.
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Old 06-12-2019, 09:46 AM   #38
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What?
It sounds like you got a bus that overheats easily. I'd be calling the wonderful dealer and asking why its overheating going 40 on the highway.

I don't have any experience with these vehicles. It was 110 or more in Phoenix. It was brutal. I saw at least two cars pulled, overheated, while over going up the mountains. The bus was not overheating at that time.

But it gave me the alarm when I was accelerating and doing almost 60mph. I had slow down to 40 so it would cool down.




My neighbor used to drive a similar sized delivery truck as the bus and he said he had a similar problem.



Still, I can't see that it should overheat at all on the highway. I contacted AAA Bus about it and am waiting for a response. From what I experienced with Tony, and the reviews, I'm confident that if there's a problem he'll take care of it.


Any ideas and advice is appreciated though!
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I'm leaning more towards Idea 2, with the radiator above the windshield.
1. No hinges or needing to move radiator out of the way to open the hood.
2. Hoses are already routed to the inside of the bus, so all I have to to is reroute them to the top.
3. I can make a shroud for the radiator that gives the bus a more "Class C" look, and shields the radiator from the sun.
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Old 06-12-2019, 10:48 AM   #40
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Anyone know why part of my thread above is showing pictures I never posted all of a sudden?

The photos I put yesterday are now changed to some random pictures of other rigs and other people-and it is the one post that doesn't show an "edit" option.


Also, I can't type a response without having to sign back in every time I'm gonna post it.
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