The ARGO - Page 5

o1marc · 06-18-2019, 07:14 PM

It makes a big difference adding rigid or spray foam insulation compared to the measly batt insulation that's in there.

Joe45 · 06-18-2019, 08:33 PM

I'll likely go with the rigid then, unless there's a DIY spray foam.

Joe45 · 06-18-2019, 08:37 PM

So the bus is getting a name and design/theme change.

New name (90% permanent) "White Mountain Express"

Design/Theme: Victorian/Steampunk Locomotive/Train Car

We were just looking at it and it hit me-how it resembles a locomotive and train car. Love all the rivets!
Also, I'm getting back into Cowboy Action Shooting, and it'll be awesome going to shoots in different places in this vehicle!

I want to do the nicest job I can. Leaving in the standard windows, as they match the old trains pretty good. May replace a few in the back with round windows.

Is there a way to change the name of the thread?

Should I start a new thread with the name change?

What do y'all think?

HazMatt · 06-18-2019, 08:47 PM

Awesome sauce!
If you go to your userCP, take what you already have under, My Bus, insert the new name there, and move the prior info to, Coachwork.
At this late date, I don't believe the thread title can be changed.
I'd say, let it roll! No point in having a Build point-1, point-2...

o1marc · 06-18-2019, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Joe45

I'll likely go with the rigid then, unless there's a DIY spray foam.

There is DIY spray foam. Runs $600-$700 for a kit with enough for a bus. It's messy and finicky to apply. Without some experience with it, it is easy to create lots of extra work trimming it out.

PNW_Steve · 06-19-2019, 01:53 PM

Sounds very cool!

I spoke with a gent the other day who did his own spray foam. He installed about 2" in the walls and ceiling. He told me that his 37' bus took two 600bf kits.

Joe45 · 06-19-2019, 05:54 PM

I think I'll skip the spray foam-not only because of the expense, but the sheer complexity and labor of it. I'll go with the rigid stuff.

Joe45 · 06-19-2019, 05:57 PM

I went up and down the bus and cut Xs into all those anchor nuts.

I realized that otherwise I'd have to still use the cut-off wheel to chop off the ceiling all the way along the bus.

Gonna see about getting an air chisel at Harbor Freight so I can knock out those anchors.

Also, I'm taking out the soft insulation from the ceiling. Any precautions I should be aware of?

I'm thinking of maybe one of those cheap painter's jump suits, eye protection, etc. to avoid getting that crap all over me.

HazMatt · 06-19-2019, 06:04 PM

If it's fiberglass batting, respiratory control is an absolute!
A dust mask is marginal, at best. While uncomfortable; a half-face, negative pressure, cartridge respirator is the safest, most reliable way to go.
Unless you want cancer. Then cheap out with the paper dust mask...

Joe45 · 06-19-2019, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by HazMatt

If it's fiberglass batting, respiratory control is an absolute!
A dust mask is marginal, at best. While uncomfortable; a half-face, negative pressure, cartridge respirator is the safest, most reliable way to go.
Unless you want cancer. Then cheap out with the paper dust mask...

Geez!
In that case, I want even the crap between the side walls out!

Thanks for the warning!

HazMatt · 06-19-2019, 06:14 PM

Kinda like me overindulging in a single-malt Scotch; it's safe, if left undisturbed.
Those tiny glass fibers get inhaled, lodge in the alveolae, and all Hell cuts loose.
20 or 40 years down the line.

Joe45 · 06-19-2019, 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HazMatt

Kinda like me overindulging in a single-malt Scotch; it's safe, if left undisturbed.
Those tiny glass fibers get inhaled, lodge in the alveolae, and all Hell cuts loose.
20 or 40 years down the line.

Yeah screw that!
I'm getting one of those painter's suits: $8.00 on Amazon, and using my respirator!

Thank you for the warning!

HazMatt · 06-19-2019, 06:55 PM

iDe nada, amigo!
I've earned my keep as a Health & Safety Weenie on numerous sites, so I take that sh1t seriously!

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Originally Posted by Joe45

Yeah screw that!
I'm getting one of those painter's suits: $8.00 on Amazon, and using my respirator!

Thank you for the warning!

You can sometimes find Tyvek suits, even with the hoodie, for that much or less at HD or Lowes, same day.
Some times...

Joe45 · 06-19-2019, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by HazMatt

iDe nada, amigo!
I've earned my keep as a Health & Safety Weenie on numerous sites, so I take that sh1t seriously!You can sometimes find Tyvek suits, even with the hoodie, for that much or less at HD or Lowes, same day.
Some times...

Thanks

I'll take a look at my local Lowes/Home Depot. They are literally across the street from each other, with a Walmart next door to HD.

HazMatt · 06-20-2019, 03:53 AM

Sounds like a one-stop skoolie shop! Lucky you; mine are scattered from Hell to breakfast.

Joe45 · 06-24-2019, 06:10 PM

Removed the ceiling insulation today wearing one of those one piece body suit things, goggles, and respirator. Then I wire-brushed what was still stuck to the ceiling.

All the insulation is in the bus, at the back, on the floor. Plan on driving it to the dump tomorrow.

Took a shower and the water ran something in my eye. Flushed for a while with no improvement.
Just got back from urgent care. Still feel something, but hoping its just the irritation left over. Nothing like before. Not a pleasant experience!

So now I'm concerned, because driving the bus to the dump is gonna probably agitate all that insulation in the back and start particles flying all over the place.

I was sure I had large trash bags, but couldn't find them. They may be in my wife's Jeep. If they are, seems like the best bet is to carefully wrangle the fiberglass into those bags before driving anywhere. If they aren't, seems like the best bet is to go get some, and carefully wrangle the fiberglass into those bags before driving anywhere.

Also, thinking of hosing down the bus inside to get the other particles down and out.

Any suggestions?

I really can't wait to end the stripping part so I can start building!

PNW_Steve · 06-24-2019, 06:19 PM

Most of us have been there.

The demo work is the worst part of the project.

Joe45 · 06-24-2019, 06:21 PM

This stuff seems good for the floor...
https://www.homedepot.com/p/Owens-Co...52DD/202085962
I believe this is pretty rigid.

This seems better for the walls/ceiling...

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Thermash...7264/100549260

Any suggestions?

HazMatt · 06-24-2019, 06:27 PM

That is exactly how I'd deal with it. Spray the pile down, gently! If you can get a garden hose in there, and have a multi-setting head, start with the Mist function until the entired pile is bedewed.
Once the surface has been wetted down, you can get a little more aggressive using the Shower setting, still being cautious not to blow the crap around and up.
Tho if you totally saturate the middens, those are gonna be some damn heavy bags! Wet down in layers, if need be. That crap seems to take to water pretty well.
Gloves, Tyvek, and respirator recommended. Goggles if you see any fly-aways while scooping the sh1t into the bags.
I'd spray down the interior afterwards; ceiling, walls, then the floor from the front to out the back door. Better job of deconning than a broom can do.
Sorry to hear you had some schmutz in your hair that rinsed into your eyes! Wishing you a speedy recovery! 🤞

peteg59 · 06-24-2019, 06:35 PM

If you can't wet it down and bag it, perhaps you could put a tarp over it weighing it down with heavy objects on the corners enough to get to the dump?
Then simply sweep it out the back door if that is allowed?
Good luck and hope your eye is better as well.
Go jump in a pool, pond, lake for 15 minutes to flush it out more, maybe?

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