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Old 06-03-2016, 01:09 PM   #71
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Removing back AC unit & installing window unit

It's been over a month since Clint left me. I've been doing a few things in the bus, mostly organizing what's there. Gathered & sorted all of his tools from the house, the cabin & in the bus into separate piles of wrenches, sockets etc. He had gone thru all of his tools last summer & kept only what he figured he would need to work on the bus & the Nissan so I didn't get rid of anything. I did mess up with putting all the sockets in one box, only to realize half way that he had them separate for a reason SAE & metric so I had to go back & re sort them out.

Next plan was to build out a small cabinet to store all tools in, something he never got around to doing. My guess is he couldn't decide what to build or at least that's where I'm at. After getting everything in one place I think I am going to just come up with containers to store everything in (right now they are sorted into gallon baggies) and place them all in the basement bay. WHAT ARE SOME IDEAS FOR SORTING & STORING? My first thought is the Army issued ammo boxes but I am opened for any ideas.

It's starting to get real hot in the bus as it is sitting in the direct sun all day & I am really thinking about installing a window unit. My original idea was to cut a hole & install a unit above the back door. My problem is that the original AC is across the back & I am unsure how hard that would be to remove. I may just install one window in the back drivers side as the other side is blocked off. The problem I'm facing with removing the window is the hoses & electrical that come off the AC unit & go down to the bay runs smack dab down the center of the window so it will have to be removed. I need some ASSISTANCE ON WHAT'S INVOLVED. Eventually, I may tackle removing the upper unit. My neighbor has a welding setup in his garage & would be able to cut a whole quite easy but for now will settle on just getting one installed in the window so that I can work on the bus without passing out from the heat. LOL I've read about removing the window & it appears to be something even I could do.

Any input from y'all is gratiously welcomed on pros & cons on each idea. Ideal, I would like the unit across the back gone but being on my own now with little to no help I need to take the easiest route. Thanks in advance.
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Old 06-03-2016, 01:58 PM   #72
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is the back partitioned off for a bedroom?

taking unit out, with big back window and replacing with sheet metal/steel tube to give a wall is best bet

do you have a mid section door emergency exit?

do you have a small ac now? you will actually need atleast 2 5000/6000 btu to cool bus, that will require more than a normal household 15 amp plug in, if back is partitioned than 1 unit will keep it nice and cool, and a couple fans moving air will help
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Old 06-03-2016, 02:09 PM   #73
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You can best see my set up in posting #10 pictures. I don't have a mid section door and the best I can see is either install in rear above door, back window or in front about windshield.

I don't expect it to cool the whole bus but as you said with small fans can direct at least a breeze through the rest of the bus. I have 3 small dual fan window fans that I could use for that.
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Old 06-03-2016, 02:30 PM   #74
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In the bus I have a 5k btu unit and a 8k unit.

FWIW, my 5000btu AC uses 21a to start and runs at 3a (in the bus).
My 6000btu unit uses 25a to start and 5a to run (in the house).
My 8000btu (in the bus) uses a bit more than the 6.

At home I am plugged into a 15a house breaker and I can run the 5 (in the bus), then start the 8 (in the bus) w/o tripping the breaker.

When plugged into a CG 30a service there's never a problem.
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Old 06-03-2016, 02:48 PM   #75
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For now, since I won't be getting on the road for a few months (if ever). I'll just have to rewire the cabins panel to accommodate an AC, 5 cu ft freezer & a small fridge in the bus. Not using anything in the cabin now except a small freezer that I need to unplug & move to the door to defrost & give away & a few overhead lights when I go down there.
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Old 06-03-2016, 03:13 PM   #76
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Someone from another site suggested putting a small unit in one of my emergency windows, something I hadn't even considered. It would be a temporary fix till I could get her moved down back but it would be super quick. Haven't asked what they suggest doing to keep it up there though. I really don't want to screw anything into the side of the bus for something temporary like that.
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Old 06-03-2016, 03:26 PM   #77
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Imagine looking at the side of a window unit resting on a window sill near the front edge of the unit. The outside end of the unit is heavy and wants to fall downward, right? As it does so the top surface of the unit would pull out of the window. So fasten some kind of bar to the top of the unit, inside the window, so that the bar is pulled against the inside of the wall by the weight of the unit hanging outside. Now it wants to move in a different way: the unit pivots around that top bar; the bottom of the unit pushes inward a bit. So fasten another bar to the bottom of the unit, but on the outside of the wall, to prevent the bottom of the unit moving inward.

This arrangement certainly isn't road-worthy, but it would be adequate to keep a cooler perched in a window while the bus isn't moving anywhere. Also it doesn't require any fasteners installed into the bus.
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Old 06-03-2016, 03:33 PM   #78
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That would work...need to think on that. I could screw a bar across top & bottom using the screw holes that hold the whole window in. Not in an ideal place for a bar but would do the job. Just need to come up with blocks of some sort longer than the part that protrudes in or I guess real long screws.
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Old 06-03-2016, 10:43 PM   #79
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for your needs if its portable and isnt going to be running while on the road.. get a portable standalone A/C that has TWO hoses (NOT a single hose).. and the unit sits on the floor of the bus and the 2 hoses could easily be fitted to a metal plate and placed in one of the bus windows opened up... they look like dryer hoses.. you empty the water buclet on the unit every so often... im assuming you have the bus sitting at a house where you can plug into real power and are not on a generator all the time? in an uninsulated bus you will need 12,000 BTU if you can get it...

these units can be bought new or often are sold uses.. remember the TWO hose type give the most efficiency... otherwise you are partially ducking your cooled air and blowing it out of the bus...

no weight to support as the weight sits on the floor...

I ordered one for me to work inside the bus but havent got it yet or id show you pics..

if you plan to run your bus on the road alot once its complete.. then keep the original A/C units as those are very nice... if you want to remove them I may be interested in those units if they are not damaged or destroyed when removed.. (I have a friend that wants to add A/C to his bus)..

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Old 06-04-2016, 12:42 AM   #80
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I've looked into the portables but I was hoping to use what I currently have on hand for a temporary fix. I may just chuck the whole rear AC install & put one in the front above the windshield. At least I won't have to worry about what to do with the bus AC. I can just forget its there. I also have been thinking that I could still put one out the back window but on the passenger side & not the drivers side. I just need to swap the freezer & pie safe around. Not as ideal as the other side due to a skinny cabinet built into the bus already about 2 1/2 ft from the back but it would work. I was just hoping to hear someone say I could just get rid of the cables/hoses coming the bus AC & put it easily in that window. but......
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