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Old 05-10-2016, 01:03 AM   #71
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Been skinning the windows and planning. The emergency door will be left intact, and the handle removed from outside. A friend borrowed me his large craftsman air compressor and I bought the harbor freight air riveter. 3/16" SS rivets.

Next is to finish the other side and get the panels painted and some extra sealant. Been using dynaflex for a paintable sealant around open seams.
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Old 05-10-2016, 07:22 AM   #72
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lookin good!! Nice tyo see another 1991 Carpenter!.. albeit yours is longer than mine!.

I saw a post a few back about you removing the driver heater console.. you will want some heat by the driver as it is a cold seat due to the things others mention and also that the defroster air-intake (the cowl on the outside below the driver window) also brings in lots of outside air.. outside air is good for defogging when you dont have engine driven A/C.

there is a TON of wasted space inside the OEM heater Boxes.. they can be removed and reinstalled but you can also build your own that is much smaller and still maintain heating / defrosting functionality.. the carpenter busses have 2 blowers in that front heater.. one for the Left side of the windshield and one for the driver / left front passenger seat...

for an RV those heaters are somewhat Oversize as you arent trying to heat 11 rows of seats.. just the driver and maybe a duct to the area just behind..

you can use an automotive heater core for each heater and smaller blower motors and still get the desired results.. and cut that box size down.. your right side door heater is the same, it has 2 blowers in it (depending on the options ordered on the bus).. the door is another Very cold area in a bus so unless you are going to change the door it will need heat.. (maybe you already did? I didnt read the whole thread).

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Old 05-10-2016, 07:50 AM   #73
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Been skinning the windows and planning. The emergency door will be left intact, and the handle removed from outside. A friend borrowed me his large craftsman air compressor and I bought the harbor freight air riveter. 3/16" SS rivets.

Next is to finish the other side and get the panels painted and some extra sealant. Been using dynaflex for a paintable sealant around open seams.
Cool. Lemme know how you like the HF riveter.
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Old 05-10-2016, 08:13 PM   #74
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lookin good!! Nice tyo see another 1991 Carpenter!.. albeit yours is longer than mine!.

I saw a post a few back about you removing the driver heater console.. you will want some heat by the driver as it is a cold seat due to the things others mention and also that the defroster air-intake (the cowl on the outside below the driver window) also brings in lots of outside air.. outside air is good for defogging when you dont have engine driven A/C.

there is a TON of wasted space inside the OEM heater Boxes.. they can be removed and reinstalled but you can also build your own that is much smaller and still maintain heating / defrosting functionality.. the carpenter busses have 2 blowers in that front heater.. one for the Left side of the windshield and one for the driver / left front passenger seat...

for an RV those heaters are somewhat Oversize as you arent trying to heat 11 rows of seats.. just the driver and maybe a duct to the area just behind..

you can use an automotive heater core for each heater and smaller blower motors and still get the desired results.. and cut that box size down.. your right side door heater is the same, it has 2 blowers in it (depending on the options ordered on the bus).. the door is another Very cold area in a bus so unless you are going to change the door it will need heat.. (maybe you already did? I didnt read the whole thread).

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I will be keeping all heaters stock for now. I am just un-securing them to clean and treat for rust.

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Cool. Lemme know how you like the HF riveter.
It's not bad. There are some misleading info for before use instructions. It tells you to open it up and add oil. There is already proper oil level from factory. I opened up my first one, and accidently spilled a little oil from it, so the level was off. A rivet shaft jammed in it after a week. I returned it no questions asked and used it as is from the box. Works pretty darn well, but it's not quite adjusted just right for the rivets I'm using, but it's doing it's job, no problems for now.
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Old 05-11-2016, 09:52 AM   #75
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lookin good!! Nice tyo see another 1991 Carpenter!.. albeit yours is longer than mine!.

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How do you find your headroom in your Carpenter? I decided against a roof raise not because it wouldn't be nice, but because I found my ceiling to be fairly tall and I just don't have the time or resources to do that right now.
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Old 05-11-2016, 10:00 AM   #76
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So, I work nights and I set my alarm for 8:30 each morning to get a little work done. Normally, I knock out two panels/morning. Yesterday, I was at Lowe's and picked up some new drill bits. So much quicker. Normally, I stray away from the Kobalt brand, but I really like these (see photo). Today, I got 3 panels done. At that pace, two more days and the window panels are done.






I have been shopping for my driving camera system. I want one for backing up and one for my big blind spot to my right. Take a look at the picture of my bus to see that I won't be able to see much at all via windows on that side.

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Old 05-11-2016, 07:03 PM   #77
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What material did you use to blank off the windows? That's my next project.
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Old 05-11-2016, 07:20 PM   #78
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I used the ceiling skins.
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