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Old 05-12-2016, 08:57 PM   #81
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Old 05-13-2016, 12:13 AM   #82
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What material did you use to blank off the windows? That's my next project.
BTW, as a general disclaimer...

I don't recommend paneling off each window individually. I only did it for time and money's sake. Using the biggest sheet you can haul out to your bus is best, less seams for leaks to develop.
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Old 06-01-2016, 05:00 PM   #83
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Can any one tell me what is the model exactly for my bus?
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Old 06-01-2016, 07:10 PM   #84
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Using a single-sized sheet to cover as many windows as possible is NOT feasible. The old glass windows WILL be removed, leaving space between the ribs that will have to be filled with cut-to-size pieces of whatever material may be necessary and caulking around the edges for weather tightness.

Again, what material did you use to fill in the window holes?
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Old 06-01-2016, 09:06 PM   #85
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Can any one tell me what is the model exactly for my bus?
Could you clarify?
Exact model as in like 1991 international 3800?

If that's not what you mean, look up your vin in google.
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Old 06-02-2016, 01:18 AM   #87
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Old 06-02-2016, 07:49 AM   #88
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Using a single-sized sheet to cover as many windows as possible is NOT feasible. The old glass windows WILL be removed, leaving space between the ribs that will have to be filled with cut-to-size pieces of whatever material may be necessary and caulking around the edges for weather tightness.

Again, what material did you use to fill in the window holes?
I used a single sheet of cut down inner skin for each window. I was trying to say that if you remove the windows and use a full piece if sheet stock (8'?), that would create the least amount of seals and best look. Less seals means less chance for water intrusion.
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Old 06-03-2016, 01:20 PM   #89
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Thank you dapplecreek, great resource.

Here's what my vin yielded:

Manufacturer International/Navistar
Make International
Model Year 1991
Model 3800
Engine Manufacturer International/Navistar
Engine Series DT-360
Engine Capacity L6, 5.9L 180hp (360CID)
Fuel Type Diesel
Vehicle Type Blue Bird School Bus
Chassis 4X2 FBC Chassis
Drive Line Type 4x2
Brake System Hydraulic
GVWR Class 26,001 - 33,000lbs.
Country US Produced Incomplete Bus
Assy. Plant Springfield, Ohio

VERY INTERESTING...so much info that contradicts what I thought I knew about my bus. I've highlighted my points of confusion.

DT-360? How do I verify whether I have the 360 or the 466?

Blue Bird? My placard that has my VIN clearly state the bus is a carpenter. What makes me second guess this at all is the fact that my interior lights all have the bluebird logo. I figured this was just a replacement that was on hand.

Can anyone explain what the FBC means in the chassis?

What is meant by "Incomplete Bus"?
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Old 06-03-2016, 01:59 PM   #90
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If the VIN says you have a DT360, chances are low that it's ever been replaced - but it is possible. Engine should have a sticker on it somewhere indicating size and HP rating.

The interior lights are likely a universal size, and I have a Carpenter bus too ... I need covers for some of my lights and since Carpenter is out of business, finding Carpenter branded covers is highly unlikely. I'm betting the Blue Bird ones are a perfect fit and that's what some mechanic had available.

Incomplete bus is what IH shipped out of their chassis plant to a body builder. Carpenter, Blue Bird, etc. do not issue chassis VIN's, unless they actually made the chassis.

I'd have to look up what the FBC means.
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