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Old 12-16-2014, 08:59 PM   #41
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Unless your engine is overheating, in which case they become auxiliary radiators! I don't wish this on anyone, but I've been there: a scorching hot day, an engine getting close to overheating, and the heaters cranked
I had seriously thought about this as I have spent my fair share of time in old dilapidated vehicles, and overheating IS a real concern in any region where it gets hot outside. What do you guys think about removing the heater core, and mounting it in with the radiator, I should have room in there.

Time to think aloud (with a keyboard). So if I use the heater core as an 'axillary radiator', the thermostat should pick up the slack and keep it at the proper temp. So I can just keep in the loop, mount it in the radiator bay, and cut out the extra 90 or so feet of hose right?
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Old 12-17-2014, 12:21 AM   #42
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The other thing to consider is that 90 feet of hose also feeds your front heater and defroster
for the windshield. So if you only camp in good clear weather that is always dry and warm
you might want to keep the defroster and heater for the occasional cold humid weather.
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Old 12-17-2014, 01:59 AM   #43
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Sounds interesting, let us know how it sleeps (that's all that really matters to me). And I absolutely agree on the new age memory foam crap. My ex-wife insisted on getting one years ago that cost over two-grand and it was the most god-awful thing to try and sleep on ever. I let her have it in the divorce. I got better sleep in Navy bunks that had a two inch cotton mattress on top of metal.
Not surprisingly, my dad had this old crusty cot that was either military surplus or similar. I used to get great sleep on that. Especially when i toss it out next to the fire and sleep there.
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Old 12-17-2014, 02:26 AM   #44
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The other thing to consider is that 90 feet of hose also feeds your front heater and defroster
for the windshield. So if you only camp in good clear weather that is always dry and warm
you might want to keep the defroster and heater for the occasional cold humid weather.
That thought has crossed my mind more than once... But not recently. I will still have the blower motor up there. Just not the heat... So it will be mildly effective at moisture. I also alredy own a pair of mr heater little buddy propane heaters. Im thinking that i could use those as a pre drive warm up. At least one will be in the bus as an emergency backup heater. If not, there is sure to be a big gaping hole where the radiator used to be. Maybe i could start a small fire there. Haha.

You have a fairly solid point that logic backs up without argument.... Buuuuuutttt... I think i would rather deal with frosty window than trying to deal with the design challenges of what to do with two giant black rubber hoses and the box attached to the middle of them. If i make a post sometime in the dead of winter of winter about something something window, something something frostbite.... You can feel free to say " i told you so".

I appreciate all the input from everyone on this. Having someone point out flaws forces me to work through these problems before they become costly problems.
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Old 12-17-2014, 10:26 AM   #45
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Another option --- driving without defrost can be a lot more than annoying, it can be dangerous. Especially given the ginormous windshield area and need for all around visibility these big suckers require. Instead of deleting everything, buy one of the new, small aftermarket heater/defrosters and plug it into the existing line. Just a thought.

Course, you could just install wipers on the inside too.
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Old 12-17-2014, 10:40 AM   #46
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Another option --- driving without defrost can be a lot more than annoying, it can be dangerous. Especially given the ginormous windshield area and need for all around visibility these big suckers require. Instead of deleting everything, buy one of the new, small aftermarket heater/defrosters and plug it into the existing line. Just a thought.

Course, you could just install wipers on the inside too.
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Old 12-17-2014, 10:47 AM   #47
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Excellent find. I'm buying two of them.
I actually have been mulling over the idea of getting rid of all the factory heat and freeing up some room.
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Old 12-17-2014, 10:51 AM   #48
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Ewwwww.... have you actually ever used a 12v resistance heater? Any that I've seen are simply miserable. Not to mention, your adding additional load to the engine to power the thing, which seems silly since there is so much excess heat in an internal combustion engine.

For realz: keep the stock defrost and front heater. I'm confident that you WILL regret having pulled them out.
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Old 12-17-2014, 10:53 AM   #49
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Also, first three reviews that pop up on Amazon:

"This unit would not keep the cab warm at all."

"This heater does work but it does not put out much heat at all so I do not think it is worth the money, the fan is not very powerful either."

"Does not put out much heat and the fan barely blows out the warm air."
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Old 12-17-2014, 10:57 AM   #50
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One more comparison. I'm really trying to drive this point home

That particular model doesn't have a BTU rating, but I found a similar one on Amazon that did. Back Seat Heat Plus 1100 BTU 12V Truck Heater.
1100 BTU.

In my bus, the heater next to the driver is rated at around 80,000 BTU. The one by the door was rated at around 50,000. I removed the smaller one. You just won't get the defrosting power you need out of anything but a coolant based heat system.
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