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Old 12-17-2014, 11:04 AM   #51
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Re: The bus with no name...

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Also, first three reviews that pop up on Amazon:

"This unit would not keep the cab warm at all."

"This heater does work but it does not put out much heat at all so I do not think it is worth the money, the fan is not very powerful either."

"Does not put out much heat and the fan barely blows out the warm air."

haha. I realize that one in particular is terrible and didn't mean that particular item was the end all be all of the search. I will have 9k-18k btu available in the forward compartment already. The 12v heater would be more of something I could lay in there to remove moisture and add just a bit of heat. not looking to heat the cab, just put a dent in the humidity.

could always fire up the wood stove...
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Old 12-17-2014, 11:12 AM   #52
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One more comparison. I'm really trying to drive this point home

That particular model doesn't have a BTU rating, but I found a similar one on Amazon that did. Back Seat Heat Plus 1100 BTU 12V Truck Heater.
1100 BTU.

In my bus, the heater next to the driver is rated at around 80,000 BTU. The one by the door was rated at around 50,000. I removed the smaller one. You just won't get the defrosting power you need out of anything but a coolant based heat system.

Yes, the item i picked is horrible. Which adds the tongue in cheek effect.

Thank you for the quote on your heater rating... this information gives me a much better idea of how much heat I will need per the volume of space. Seeing as how I have a handy dandy 3d render of my bus, I can figure the volume vs BTU rather handily.

Also, I rode a bus to school every day as a kid... in Ohio. In soviet Ohio, you are not afraid of cold, cold is afraid of you.


In 1994 I was in 4th grade, standing at the bus stop, waiting for the bus, in the dark.
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Old 12-17-2014, 11:17 AM   #53
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Excellent find. I'm buying two of them....
You have two wives? I can hardly handle one. :-p
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Old 12-17-2014, 11:46 AM   #54
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Even the smallest coolant powered heater core is going to push something like 10,000 btu. If you are driving in weather that is wet, you will get condensation, and it will be unsafe unless you have a source of dry heat and a blower. Directly heated propane heaters (one where the flame is exposed to the heated area) are wet heat - the combustion of propane releases a lot of water vapor and are unsuitable for keeping humidity down.

You can re-route the heater hoses under the deck if you want a clean interior, but you plan on driving the thing, remember it's a vehicle, and you need to have basic safety gear. I consider an adequate defroster blower in the same category as headlights and windshield wipers. Required.


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One more comparison. I'm really trying to drive this point home

That particular model doesn't have a BTU rating, but I found a similar one on Amazon that did. Back Seat Heat Plus 1100 BTU 12V Truck Heater.
1100 BTU.

In my bus, the heater next to the driver is rated at around 80,000 BTU. The one by the door was rated at around 50,000. I removed the smaller one. You just won't get the defrosting power you need out of anything but a coolant based heat system.

Yes, the item i picked is horrible. Which adds the tongue in cheek effect.

Thank you for the quote on your heater rating... this information gives me a much better idea of how much heat I will need per the volume of space. Seeing as how I have a handy dandy 3d render of my bus, I can figure the volume vs BTU rather handily.

Also, I rode a bus to school every day as a kid... in Ohio. In soviet Ohio, you are not afraid of cold, cold is afraid of you.


In 1994 I was in 4th grade, standing at the bus stop, waiting for the bus, in the dark.
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Old 12-17-2014, 11:48 AM   #55
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Funny. about the wives.

Well my factory heat needs some work anyhow. I either need to clean/fix it or remove/replace it.
The drivers heat doesn't seem to work much if at all, and the unit by the door seems really weak as well. The rears never seemed to do anything at all.
I guess I'm about to the point I need to make up my mind. I guess I'll play around with them and see whats up.
I didn't read any of the reviews for the mini dc heater. Oh well, its a nice idea, and still sounds like it puts out as much heat as what I have.
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Old 12-17-2014, 11:51 AM   #56
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Funny. about the wives.

Well my factory heat needs some work anyhow. I either need to clean/fix it or remove/replace it.
The drivers heat doesn't seem to work much if at all, and the unit by the door seems really weak as well. The rears never seemed to do anything at all.
I guess I'm about to the point I need to make up my mind. I guess I'll play around with them and see whats up.
I didn't read any of the reviews for the mini dc heater. Oh well, its a nice idea, and still sounds like it puts out as much heat as what I have.
yes, sounds like you have something wrong with the heater system. Those things can cook you alive when they're working properly.
Have you checked that all the valves are open? There will probably be two at the engine and another at the heater up near the driver.
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Old 12-17-2014, 12:20 PM   #57
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"In 1994 I was in 4th grade, standing at the bus stop, waiting for the bus, in the dark." Funny, I was out there too and I didn't meet you---Oh--wait--that was 1954, sorry . In all seriousness, keep the defroster. My little bus wasn't built with a heater of any kind let alone a defroster and the wiper (one only) was a hand crank affair. I now have a small fan that blows on the windshield (and 3 wipers) but even in sunny Kalifornia where it is in the thirties today, that isn't enough to get the job done. Jack
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Old 12-17-2014, 01:39 PM   #58
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"In 1994 I was in 4th grade, standing at the bus stop, waiting for the bus, in the dark." Funny, I was out there too and I didn't meet you---Oh--wait--that was 1954, sorry . In all seriousness, keep the defroster. My little bus wasn't built with a heater of any kind let alone a defroster and the wiper (one only) was a hand crank affair. I now have a small fan that blows on the windshield (and 3 wipers) but even in sunny Kalifornia where it is in the thirties today, that isn't enough to get the job done. Jack
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Old 12-17-2014, 04:11 PM   #59
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You got to ride? I had to walk,but not, unlike both of my parents, "uphill both ways, barefoot in the snow"
I had to wear those awful 5 buckle boots.
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Old 12-18-2014, 04:34 PM   #60
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Ha. Thanks for the welcoming.

Apparently, the camera on my phone takes pictures just barely over 2mb. Forcing me to resize them to post. haha. Anyone know of a good batching software for downsizing loads of pictures at once?

I will be adding them as I have time. As of right now though. I'm working full time, trying to start up a business, working on this bus, and trying to find time for everything else, like sleep. oh how I miss sleep.

I have used Gimp its a free photo app that comes close to fully replacing Adobe photoshop I use it via Portable apps http://portableapps.com/ it allows you to keep your assorted programs on a thumbdrive that you can plug in any computer surf the web with your bookmarks etc without leaving any info behind . Nice when your in a place that has only public computers to get online Small town libraries come to but there are also lots of other free apps available there . I love the countdown one I have almosters disease when it comes to remembering when I put stuff in the grill " easily distracted . Give it a look many picture apps as well and a great conversion app that can convert almost any measurement to another also take a look at pencil project neat drawing app .
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