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Old 03-17-2012, 01:09 PM   #121
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Progress has been slow for the past couple of months due to unforeseen medical issues. However, I have been thinking a lot about the floor plan I devised and never really liked the fact that I didn't have room for a passenger if I ever wanted to take someone out for a short trip or whatever. Yesterday morning I thought for a while and came up with a new plan and I think it will work. I rendered these in SketchUp today.

On the passenger side, the chest fridge is now where the dog beds used to be. The computer desk is moved to the fresh water platform and one of the dog beds will go under that desk with a door or gate that will be closed when driving. I've also fashioned a duct to route cool air from the new air conditioner location to the rest of the cabin. I can control the air circulation by opening or closing registers as necessary.


On the driver side, the wardrobe has been moved from the passenger side and houses another dog bed underneath. The shower (and portable toilet) is off the platform giving me a few more inches of headroom so I can raise the shower head location. The kitchen is now directly behind the driver seat. I think I can add a removable table top in between the two front seats for dining, but only if I can fix the swivel mechanism of the driver seat and find a new passenger seat with a swivel. It would be nice to eat while looking out the big front windshield. (The as-pictured passenger seat is only a placeholder model—there are mounting holes in the floor for the seat that was removed by the previous vehicle owner and I'll attach to those holes any seat I find.


By moving the shower forward, I might be able to route the drain directly through the floor. This wasn't possible with the shower any further to the rear as the fuel tank was under where the drain might exit. Even if I can't go through the floor with the drain, I can still raise the shower pan a few inches to allow for a p-trap and then route the plumbing to wherever it needs to go. The gray water tank will be directly under that part of the floor.

Since the shower enclosure is going to be about 3-feet square, I might use a corner cabinet in the kitchen with a narrow base cabinet to fill the remaining space behind the driver seat. The corner cabinet would allow more storage and I could mount an on-demand propane water heater in the back of the cabinet with a chimney vent up through the corner and to the roof. This solution is still in the planning stage (like a lot of things, hehe).
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Old 03-17-2012, 03:41 PM   #122
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... Even if I can't go through the floor with the drain, I can still raise the shower pan a few inches to allow for a p-trap and then route the plumbing to wherever it needs to go.
The Camco 37262 Camper Drain Trap may work for you. It is far more compact than any standard P-trap that I have ever seen. And a much saner price than the "new" European Hepvo that is being sold. We had one of these on our Apache popup sink. Wonderful little thing. It seems to work like an air admittance valve (AAV) but with water. We liked the one in the popup so much that we will be putting them in the bus. We used the pop-up (heavily) for 20 years (1 1/2 years of that was living in it full time) and I never clogged up the trap. I'm not sure of the dimensions but ours was for a vanity sink sized drain. I've seen specs that said 6"x6"x2" and that doesn't sound right. I believe it fits a 1-1/2" or 2" strainer hole and is under 6" in height. (it's sitting upside down in the pic)
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Old 03-17-2012, 04:44 PM   #123
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... Even if I can't go through the floor with the drain, I can still raise the shower pan a few inches to allow for a p-trap and then route the plumbing to wherever it needs to go.
The Camco 37262 Camper Drain Trap may work for you.
That's an interesting contraption. I'll look into it. Thanks!
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Old 05-15-2012, 01:26 PM   #124
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The conversion has been slow for the past few months. I was diagnosed with bladder cancer and had to take a bunch of tests and undergo a bunch of procedures at the Gainesville VA hospital. Thankfully, it was caught fairly early and the prognosis is excellent. The doctors removed four tumors from the bladder wall and the pathology was "low grade, barely stage 1." So, no chemotherapy and no radiation. I just have to get regular checkups every few months for the first year and then every year for the next five years. If, by then, I have no new tumors, I can call myself cancer-free. It's highly likely I will have more tumors, as bladder cancer has a 50-75% chance of returning. It's the most expensive cancer to treat because of the high rate of recurrence, but it's also one of the easiest to treat—they just scrape them out and keep checking for new ones.

So, I'm beginning to work on the interior again, starting with waterproofing the floor. I found a remnant of vinyl flooring at a local shop for $100. I cut it down from its twelve-foot width and it fits like a glove. There is a cut near the front where I had to wrap it around the base of the driver seat (I didn't feel like removing the seat), but it will be largely hidden by cabinetry and is in a traffic-free area behind the chair. I thought at first that the vinyl was horrifically ugly, but it's growing on me. However, its purpose is to protect the plywood floor from undetected water leaks from the onboard fresh water storage and the final floor covering will be carpet tiles in a slightly less obnoxious color pattern.



I also removed one of the roof air conditioners which I plan to sell on craigslist. The second AC is over the planned carport area and isn't a priority to remove just yet. I needed to clear out the front AC so I can make a final decision on the status of the roof hatch that I would love to install. After I pulled the AC unit, I looked out across the roof from the hole and was reminded what a great idea it would be to have an access hatch right there, so I really want to figure out a way to do this affordably. (Having the hatch surround built by a sheet metal shop was a $400 no-go.)
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Old 05-15-2012, 02:02 PM   #125
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.... After I pulled the AC unit, I looked out across the roof from the hole and was reminded what a great idea it would be to have an access hatch right there, so I really want to figure out a way to do this affordably. (Having the hatch surround built by a sheet metal shop was a $400 no-go.)
Have you looked thru a marine catalog? They have lots of deck hatches. Some double as skylights or ventilation.
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Have you looked thru a marine catalog? They have lots of deck hatches. Some double as skylights or ventilation.
Yep, and if you think RV prices are expensive, marine prices are outrageous. The only hatches that are within my budget are too small for a person to easily fit through. I'm a skinny guy, but I still need at least a 20" square opening to squeeze through. 24" is better. 24" x 36" is about perfect.
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Old 05-15-2012, 03:06 PM   #127
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How about a used electrical cabinet?
Sink it into the roof, trace roof line around outside,cut it and weld it in?Arubber gasket seal might work...just an idea
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come to think of it cajun pawn stars had that crazy guy bring in an old submarine hatch or something..that would be pimp
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come to think of it cajun pawn stars had that crazy guy bring in an old submarine hatch or something..that would be pimp
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Great news on kicking the cancer! If ya gotta get something nasty, may as well be a nastiness that's easy to fix.

That flooring doesn't look too terribly bad. I like your idea of using it as an underlay to protect against leakage. Should be easy to maintain, especially if you're putting carpet squares over it later.

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