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Old 05-30-2013, 05:56 PM   #261
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Sorry to hear about your ailments.

That is some massive insulation. You will be glad that you have it during the summer.
I think I'll be glad to have it during the summer and the winter!
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Old 05-30-2013, 07:56 PM   #262
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Old 05-30-2013, 09:04 PM   #263
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Today I installed R14 fiberglass insulation between the ceiling joists. This was one of the few jobs that was easier than I thought it would be and took only a few hours. Now that it's done, I can relax for week, per doctor's orders. Tomorrow I have another resection procedure to remove a few new bladder tumors, so I'll be out of commission until at least next Friday. Also, a few weeks back I injured a toe and today it was confirmed that I broke it, so I'll be resting while that heals, too. I'm just all full of good health!
I hope you get to feeling better man! Amazing progress on your rig! Thanks for posting the video also, really neat to get a "live view" of sorts.
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Old 05-30-2013, 09:16 PM   #264
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I hope you get to feeling better man! Amazing progress on your rig! Thanks for posting the video also, really neat to get a "live view" of sorts.
Thanks! I recently bought a new camcorder, so I'll be sharing more videos as work progresses.
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Old 05-31-2013, 08:50 AM   #265
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I have a question going back to the original post, and your plans to put the Jeep in the rear garage.

I am building my bus with a small roll up door on the back so that the rear 2 meters can be used for cargo (PA and stage gear in my case) which puts a fair abount of weight behind the drive wheels - probably a tonne or so. Currently, when if I load up a cube van, and make the mistake of loading the heaviest gear at the back of the truck, the nose 'floats'. Your steering is compromised and headlights can end up pointing too high. The light steering isn't too bad in good weather, but in the rain and the snow it makes for an interesting ride, also when you come to a stop the weight transfer from rear to front can be a little dramatic.

I'm trying to avoid this with my own bus, so I was just wondering if it was something that you considered or have tested and found to be a non issue.
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Old 05-31-2013, 09:04 PM   #266
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I have a question going back to the original post, and your plans to put the Jeep in the rear garage.

I am building my bus with a small roll up door on the back so that the rear 2 meters can be used for cargo (PA and stage gear in my case) which puts a fair abount of weight behind the drive wheels - probably a tonne or so. Currently, when if I load up a cube van, and make the mistake of loading the heaviest gear at the back of the truck, the nose 'floats'. Your steering is compromised and headlights can end up pointing too high. The light steering isn't too bad in good weather, but in the rain and the snow it makes for an interesting ride, also when you come to a stop the weight transfer from rear to front can be a little dramatic.

I'm trying to avoid this with my own bus, so I was just wondering if it was something that you considered or have tested and found to be a non issue.
In fact, I did do a lot of calculations on this subject and posted about it somewhere on this thread. I'm still a little groggy after my surgery today, or I'd find it for you. Maybe tomorrow.
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Old 05-31-2013, 10:19 PM   #267
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I have a question going back to the original post, and your plans to put the Jeep in the rear garage.

I am building my bus with a small roll up door on the back so that the rear 2 meters can be used for cargo (PA and stage gear in my case) which puts a fair abount of weight behind the drive wheels - probably a tonne or so. Currently, when if I load up a cube van, and make the mistake of loading the heaviest gear at the back of the truck, the nose 'floats'. Your steering is compromised and headlights can end up pointing too high. The light steering isn't too bad in good weather, but in the rain and the snow it makes for an interesting ride, also when you come to a stop the weight transfer from rear to front can be a little dramatic.

I'm trying to avoid this with my own bus, so I was just wondering if it was something that you considered or have tested and found to be a non issue.
I hauled with a cube van for 20 years. (85 gmc-10.k gross) I had my race car is the back (1000) lbs pretty even over the rear wheels. I now have a 96 Ford shuttle bus (14k) gross. (apx 12k total loaded )The rear 5 ft is my shop area-toolbox-cabinets filled with parts + supplies-spare engine-genny-etc. add up to maybe 1300-1500 lbs. I don't notice it at all. One long trip, I had a whole bunch of veggie oil in the back-500 lbs or so. Thats the only time I noticed any "pendulum effect."
Put the amps in front of the rear wheels-speakers towards the back-you should be ok.
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Old 06-01-2013, 11:00 AM   #268
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Today I got the rig weighed on a local truck scale. The scale was located at a bulk mulch retailer and he was kind enough to let me drive it over the scale for free. I weighed the front and rear axles separately so I could figure out the vehicle's center-of-gravity.

At this point, the rig is as close to an empty weight as it ever will be. Based on these numbers I'll figure how much I can add or how much more I need to remove.

Front axle = 7820 pounds. Rear axle = 9860 pounds. This puts the current CG at 155 inches behind the front axle (wheelbase is 278 inches).

Adding the Jeep's CG to a point about 24 inches behind the bus rear axle moves the bus CG to 180 inches behind the bus front axle. Still one hundred inches ahead of the rear axle, and that's before I remove the rear and side walls from the garage area (removing the 1/8" thick aluminum sheets will probably cut another 200 pounds from the weight behind the rear axle).

The fresh water will eventually be located near or slightly in front of the bus CG.

So far, so good!

I googled "how do I calculate my vehicle's center of gravity" and found this link: Jeepaholics Anonymous. I just inserted my own numbers and arrived at the results above.
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Old 06-01-2013, 11:27 AM   #269
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That's a great relief guys, thanks for pulling out the post as well.
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Old 07-17-2013, 06:50 PM   #270
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Here's what's happening:

Finished installing the ceiling throughout the interior. I'm planning to use aluminum angles for trim around the hatch opening.

These are pictures of the process:




And I installed and wired the AC main breaker panel. I need to buy three more breakers to finish (the box came with four) and then install the inverter so I can begin using the interior outlets instead of running an extension cord through the door. The burn marks on either side are where I ground off the points of the wood screws that hold the box to the bulkhead with a few L-brackets. The marks will be covered with a surrounding border of paint and the rest of the wood will be treated with tung oil or some other light stain.


If anyone has any tips or suggestions for the AC panel, I'm listening. I think I've made it as clean and neat as I can, but I'd be open to hearing about what can go wrong in a RV environment.
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