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Old 08-22-2013, 09:21 AM   #41
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Out of curiosity, how many cans of Great Stuff did you use?
I think it was 4 regular crack & gap filler, and 2 big gap filler. Totally worth it - almost makes me regret not going all out with spray foam like usmcbay.
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Great Stuff tip: once you first use the can, you're committed to finishing it off or throwing it out. There's no putting it on the shelf + reusing it later.
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Great Stuff tip: once you first use the can, you're committed to finishing it off or throwing it out. There's no putting it on the shelf + reusing it later.
That's true, but (at least in my bus) I never had a problem finding somewhere to put more.
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Rain today is keeping meaningful construction from happening, but it did reveal a major leak! After many storms with the interior bare, I thought I had sealed all of the leaks in the walls. Apparently, there was one more. What I'm very confused and concerned about is that it seems to be coming through the Great Stuff! I was under the impression that, as closed cell foam, Great Stuff would keep water from getting in. I poked a portion above the leak and saw water squeeze out. I'm going to have to stall things until I can figure this bit out. If I can find the source of the leak outside, I'll just seal it there with caulk.
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Great Stuff tip: once you first use the can, you're committed to finishing it off or throwing it out. There's no putting it on the shelf + reusing it later.
That's true, but (at least in my bus) I never had a problem finding somewhere to put more.
Not entirely true... it's just a pain to work out. On several occasions I have cleaned the straw, the trigger/elbow piece, and the nipple on the top of the can and successfully re-used the can some weeks or months later. Full disclosure: sometimes, despite my best efforts, the cleaning just doesn't work out and I find that the partial can has to be thrown out. The straw and trigger/elbow aren't terribly difficult to clean out even after the foam is cured if you can find a suitable piece of wire to push through, but the nipple part can be a chore. I think it might be more luck than skill.

IIRC the can label mentions a solvent to be used for cleaning uncured foam. It was something relatively mild.. mineral spirits or xylene, maybe..?
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Not entirely true... it's just a pain to work out. On several occasions I have cleaned the straw, the trigger/elbow piece, and the nipple on the top of the can and successfully re-used the can some weeks or months later. Full disclosure: sometimes, despite my best efforts, the cleaning just doesn't work out and I find that the partial can has to be thrown out. The straw and trigger/elbow aren't terribly difficult to clean out even after the foam is cured if you can find a suitable piece of wire to push through, but the nipple part can be a chore. I think it might be more luck than skill.

IIRC the can label mentions a solvent to be used for cleaning uncured foam. It was something relatively mild.. mineral spirits or xylene, maybe..?
I think that's fair. For what it's worth, they make a "pro" product that can be resealed and used again later. If I'd have known about it before, I likely would have used it instead - it comes in larger quantities than retail as well.
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IIRC the can label mentions a solvent to be used for cleaning uncured foam. It was something relatively mild.. mineral spirits or xylene, maybe..?
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Found and caulked the leak. It was in a corner of a window. I had appeared to be coming through the Great Stuff, but I now realize it was only coming over it.
With that scare behind us, we finished laying the insulation.



We covered our 1" polyiso insulation with 3/8" plywood.



The plywood is attached to the bus with 2" sheet metal screws. We staggered the sheets of plywood and insulation so the seams are not on top of one another.



And of course, more Great Stuff in the gaps.

Next up is the roof deck. It's not clear what we'll be able to do with the weather this week, but we're waiting until the deck is done before we begin the interior.
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Been a while since an update, but work hasn't stopped. We just finished our roof deck!

We started by ripping a 1x6 in half, and running them down the centerline of the roof. We drilled holes up through the ribs, and through the wood on top. We then cut a strip of rubber to fit under the wood, and caulked it to the roof. We ran 1/2" bolts up trough the ribs, and up through 4x4s.



On the outside, we cut 4x4 lengths on an 18 degree angle, and secured them to the beams with post caps. We came up through the ribs into the posts with two LedgerLok structural screws. I used an angle grinder to cut off the remainder of the bolts that stuck out above the beams. Once that was finished, we started attaching the decking from back to front.



This is the deck in its finished condition. The main hangout area is in the rear, and the gaps towards the front are where the solar panels will be installed. The pathway down the center will make adjusting the panels a little easier.



Despite some really warped boards, I'm thrilled with how it came out. It looks great both on top and from the sides. I'm thrilled with how it came out, and can't wait until I get the panels and ladder installed as well.
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That deck looks incredible.

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Found and caulked the leak. It was in a corner of a window. I had appeared to be coming through the Great Stuff, but I now realize it was only coming over it.



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I just want to add that great stuff is a open cell, half pound density foam with a R value of about 4 per inch. It is not water proof, and will absorb water in high moisture area's.

If it had been 2 pound, closed cell, then there would be no way water could pass through it, but would still eventually leak passed it.

Open cell foams are good, but not a real vapor barrier, and only about half the R value. Closed cell foams are a true "Seal". They are more effective as a vapor barrier than the standard 6 mil Polly we use in residential construction.

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