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Old 07-08-2013, 03:08 PM   #51
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Re: The Journey Visvi 1999 Thomas MVP ER

hope u can fine a clear coat to go over it,,,i did mine in red and after two yrs it faded bad so if u fine a clear coat... please let me know thanks

and if u try to use the raddel can clear coat,for get it,,it will wrinke on u ..
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Yes very nice Jake, let's show the poor soul what he CAN'T have ....

But seriously the ones at my local HD in Tx say the same thing.

Anyone driving towards Maryland? Maybe you could pick up some contraband paint for our compadre there.... thanks!!
Hopefully he'll figure something out.
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I have found the Rustoleum Pro Oil-Based Enamel. We have five colors Hunter Green, Red, Black, white and Blue. In the automotive section there are more colors and they are all Acrylic Enamel.

My question is why can I not use Exterior House paint that is Acrylic Enamel and tint it the colors I want?

I also read that Acrylic Enamel is better than Oil-Based Enamel, where Acrylic Enamel is more flexable and not prone to crack.
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Sorry man, I don't have an answer for that. My understanding was that oil-based enamels last much longer.
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Old 07-08-2013, 04:06 PM   #55
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Thanks for the help, I'm going to give it a try. It should last long enough to get past inspection. Worst case, I'm repainting in a couple years. I will make sure I'm not on the east coast.
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FYI...this was posted on my thread concerning latex paints...

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By the way, The water borne paints are not latex paint. While it is quick and easy to repaint a bus with latex house paint, the overall quality of the paint job will not begin to approach the quality of an oil based paint (industrial coating, Rustoleum oil based etc.). My comments come from over 40 years experience in refinishing automobiles and I hope they are of some help.
I'm trying to get mine painted as well. My main hold up is that the roof is peeling :/
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I'm staying away from Latex and going to try the Acrylic Enamel. It may not last as long as Oil Enamel, but it is good enough for home exterior paint. Most of the Rustoleum automotive paint is Acrylic Enamel.

I will see how long it lasts.

I got the roof sanded using the Klean-Strip Easy Liquid Sander. It worked well around the rivets and other obstacles.



That was a lot of surface area to do.

Tomorrow and Wednesday I hope to finish the sides and rear. It is scheduled to rain Thursday, Friday I hope to start masking and paint over the weekend. We will see how it goes.
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That makes sense. So much I don't know about paint, lol...any who, looks like we will be racing to see who gets painted first!!
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Re: The Journey Visvi 1999 Thomas MVP ER

Call me old school, but for my money, water based paint and metal are a fundamentally bad idea. Detroit has switched to environmentally friendly water based primers and has had real problems. Like rust forming on brand new cars type problems. And that's applied scientifically under ideal conditions. Personally, I'm gonna stick with good old oils based solely on its' natural friendliness with steel.

BTW...my bus appears to have been partially sandblasted and repainted with water based latex house paint. No idea how long ago but it is peeling...no, make that falling off in chunks. Everywhere under the "new" paint is a layer of rust. Everywhere I strip the original, 67 year old (oil based) factory paint, the metal is still clean and shiny.

Some physicist may be able to explain how/why putting water on steel is good for it but until I see something to convince me otherwise, I'm stickin' with what I know works.
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Hey Guys, If it says on the can that the paint can be cleaned up with water--don't use it. If it is metalic--even oil based, don't use it. If its latex, don't use it. Stick with oil based solid colors. Many of the bright colors are very transparent . This can be overcome by using a first coat of white with a little black added followed by the bright color--still a PITA as far as coverage goes.

If you do end up using latex paint you will pretty much be stuck continuing to use it as it does not sand well and oil based paint does not stick to it very well. The advice about bug bomb clear is right on--it often causes the color coat to wrinkle. You can, however use automotive clear coat of the catalyzed variety over almost anything except latex. Hope that helps.
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