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Old 10-21-2013, 06:34 PM   #1
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The Juggernaut-my unstoppable project

Well I've been ghosting around this site for the past couple months reading, learning and appreciating many of the fine machines I have seen on here. I decided it was time to unleash the project I picked up this August. What started as a whim (I wanted a camper to take my dogs with me when I went walk-about) turned into an all out obsession. Ever get on craigslist late at night? haha. The previous owner had done much of the interior work, but what made me seal the deal was the additional 2 motors that came with the trade plus the newly rebuilt one sitting in the chassis. I will give the gent his due...he was a good wrench when it came to building the motor....but not an electrician or builder by any means. I learned very quickly of the wonders of chasing broken wires, mystery wires, and "what the heeeelll is that" over 40 feet of under bus environment. I have big plans for this old tank...and thusly dubbed it The Juggernaut. The 392 is coupled to an Allison 6 speed in a pusher configuration. Shes not fast...but it is reliable--now it is---the day of purchase it I blew a transmission pan (yes...it rusted through) and barely made it home.
SO I submit to you these pics....I seek input and critiques....I'm currently redoing the entire electrical (shore-generator-inverter) and considering adding some solar to the roof. I am also interested in running a dual fuel (gasoline/propane) on the motor...would greatly appreciate some input. And any other words to the wise....As it evolves...I will post when I can.
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Old 10-22-2013, 01:21 PM   #2
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Welcome to the Madhouse! --- Nice lookin' rig...what did she start life as?
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Old 10-22-2013, 01:43 PM   #3
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I love it!!
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Old 10-22-2013, 02:36 PM   #4
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Re: The Juggernaut-my unstoppable project

Nice, I like the old international decal on the back. The dash board looks like the old international grain trucks I use to drive for my grandfather. Do you have the old high/low switch for the differential?
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Old 10-22-2013, 06:31 PM   #5
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Re: The Juggernaut-my unstoppable project

Wow! Thanks for all the positivity!
From what the PO and the title says--it started life out as a 1970 Superior School Bus---although I haven't been able to find any flatnose ones to reference. The dash is the original--I did just restore it though--sandblast and some hammered look rustoleum. Took all the gauges apart and cleaned them and updated any electricals I could--sometimes just a good cleaning will revive some old technology. And there are a few switches and levers that "go to nowhere). There was a mount for the transmission retarder underneath the floor--and there is still an "push button" choke and mechanical pull to set the throttle anywhere you want (sorta of like a suicide cruise control ) Next to that plate is a switch for "slippery and dry" conditions. I've been underneath many many many (did I say many) times and did not see an actuator or box on the differential...although there is a GIGANTIC IHC stamped into it. The retarder on the old Allison-6-speed---MT-40 transmission. I've done my best in the short time to upgrade the mechanical--- rebuilt the holley carb (390 cmf), rewired entire engine bay, installed electronic ignition and new Accel coil, new Bosch iridium plugs and Accel wires. I re-designed the exhaust-PO had a set of Thrush turbos dumping out right under bus (under bedroom) so at any stoplights it would fill the back full of smog. Now it steps up from 2 1/2 inch from manifolds to 3 inch flowmasters---does a 180' turn and out the back of the bus. Out of the 40 some odd wires I had in a very old wiring harness--I ended up using 6. The rest were just old runs for ? . I want to do some converting of the intake--instead of the 40 foot draw from the front of the bus I would like to make louvers on the side--I'm thinking something more compact and efficient. (I would love to drop a diesel in..suggestions are more than welcome).
My plans are sink some cash in it over the next year---the main bases are covered. PO put new rubber and brake linings on before the trade.
I am going to go though and rewire /replumb the interior--update electrials and well...make this unit my "Arizona or Bust" machine for next year.....Yes a move is in the works.
So any thoughts? Anyone do the gas to diesel switch?
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Old 10-22-2013, 07:27 PM   #6
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Great looking bus.
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Old 10-22-2013, 10:10 PM   #7
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Wow! Sounds like you've been busy.

Your rig has that "urban assault vehicle" look.
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Old 10-23-2013, 01:38 AM   #8
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Sounds like you are way ahead of the game and going about it right. A diesel switch will likely be costly going in, but personally, I love'em. And you don't need a monster truck engine to pull that puppy. There are even inline sixes with plenty enough torque if it's geared right. Start by checking the torque rating on your existing motor. That'll tell you what that minimum number is like. Then go to one of the online calculators for rpm/wheel size and gear ratios. From there you can calculate your speed potential and necessary gearing for any given rpm. Diesels are happiest at their "sweet spot" and you will likely have to play some gearing games to get the most out of any engine/tranny combination but those numbers are a good place to start. Just keep in mind that diesels turn a lot slower. As long as you can find an engine with adequate torque that produces it at the right rpm, with the right gears it will be fine.

Here's one of the calculators I've used...

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I like the looks...doesn't look like a school bus conversion at first glance
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Old 10-28-2013, 12:07 PM   #10
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I wouldn't want to replace a fresh international gasser.
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