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Old 08-24-2014, 10:40 AM   #1
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The Living Bus Project is a self-contained and closed-loop "tiny house" inspired by the Living Building Challenge. It is currently being built using LEED Platinum Standards and demonstrates the possibilities for: Ecological Water Flow, Net Zero Water, Net Zero Energy, FSC Certified Lumber, Alternative Biofuels and uses only Environmentally Friendly & Sustainable products. The layout measures in at just over 206 sq ft and happens to rest on a heavy-duty International school bus chassis. The ability to travel in a reliable manner was key in our efforts and was the primary reason we chose this platform. The Living Bus Project is a sustainable vehicle with a 2,400 mile range - capable of traveling to almost any location on a single tank of HEMP-derived biofuel.



We have established a "blog" to provide a little more information about ourselves and this project. It can be found here ---> http://ourcascadia.blogspot.com

A great place to start learning about our project's concept would be here ---> http://ourcascadia.blogspot.com/2014...materials.html

In addition to the "build-out" we intend to create a non-profit organization so we may better educate our community in regards to alternative housing solutions and sustainable building practices. We are currently attempting to raise funds through Indiegogo for our non-profit start-up costs. We hope to challenge others to reconsider how we have chosen to build, live, and interact with our surrounding environment. The Living Bus Project will act as an open source demonstration model for this purpose. We intend to support alternative ideas with the Cascadian Bio-Region upon its completion and help others to create sustainable communities within the Pacific Northwest.

A further description of our non-profit fundraising can be found here ---> http://igg.me/thelivingbusproject

We are happy to provide any of the build-out plans and information to those who are interested... please feel free to ask and we will do our best to share!

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Old 08-25-2014, 07:27 AM   #2
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Welcome

300 gallons of hemp biofuel, where do you plan to store this?

Where will you make this fuel while on the road?

You need to have access to 600 gallons to make a round trip

How do you plan to travel with 600 gallons of fuel, this will get you to your destination and then be able to head back home for more fuel...that's almost 5000lbs of fuel

and that is a big project to make that much fuel, isn't it?

I did some reading here:

http://www.hemp.com/hemp-education/u...emp/hemp-fuel/
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http://www.hemp.com/hemp-education/u...emp-biodiesel/

Good luck and post pictures


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I am editing this after reading your blog, you are planning to do all this with no $$$$$$$$

If you can't afford to pay $750 for a shady business license, to ride around the country on OUR dime...

If you can't afford this adventure then you shouldn't do this...

Do you have jobs, with income?

it seems like more and more people going the easy way out, at least the last 3->5 years....works with the mentality of this country

I REALLY DISPISE PEOPLE TRYING TO ALWAYS GET THROUGH LIFE WITH FREEBIES

good luck with your project and work harder for a better outcome
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Old 08-25-2014, 08:53 AM   #3
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RE: Bansil... WOW! Not only are you quick to your own conclusions - but, you also seem to be incredibly judgmental as well. Its unfortunate that you do not understand us, our goals, the concept... and I would suppose, just about everything else we would stand for in life. I will never be able to convince you otherwise and guess what... THATS OK! Its not my place to convince you or anyone else. I am simply here to share.

To answer your question regarding fuel storage... http://ourcascadia.blogspot.com/2014...-platform.html

The vehicle operates fully using biodiesel as our primary fuel source. The vehicle currently has FOUR (4) 60-gallon fuel tanks mounted underneath: two fuel tanks up front and two fuel tanks in the middle (one on either side). This provides for 240 gallons of fuel storage capacity and a vehicle range of approximately 2500 miles. The tanks are all inter-connected and isolated by bronze ball-valves. This allows you to fill just one, two, three, or all four.

If you are looking for a "Road Warrior" capable of doing 75+MPH on the freeway... this certainly isn't it. I am sorry if you don't understand.
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Welcome

300 gallons of hemp biofuel, where do you plan to store this?

Where will you make this fuel while on the road?

You need to have access to 600 gallons to make a round trip

How do you plan to travel with 600 gallons of fuel, this will get you to your destination and then be able to head back home for more fuel...that's almost 5000lbs of fuel

and that is a big project to make that much fuel, isn't it?

I did some reading here:

http://www.hemp.com/hemp-education/u...emp/hemp-fuel/
and
http://www.hemp.com/hemp-education/u...emp-biodiesel/

Good luck and post pictures


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I am editing this after reading your blog, you are planning to do all this with no $$$$$$$$

If you can't afford to pay $750 for a shady business license, to ride around the country on OUR dime...

If you can't afford this adventure then you shouldn't do this...

Do you have jobs, with income?

it seems like more and more people going the easy way out, at least the last 3->5 years....works with the mentality of this country

I REALLY DISPISE PEOPLE TRYING TO ALWAYS GET THROUGH LIFE WITH FREEBIES

good luck with your project and work harder for a better outcome
Hey, hey, hey. Why are you ALWAYS trying to screw things up by injecting facts into the discussion? You're a real downer man. You need to be part of the solution, not part of the problem. Open your wallet and donate to our cause, man.

P.S. Free food is OK though, like wine and cheese. And maybe a little Bresaola and salami. And some good homemade artisan bread too.
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Old 08-25-2014, 10:09 AM   #5
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Hmmm, 3-5 years, actually 6 years. What happened around that time?
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Hmmm, 3-5 years, actually 6 years. What happened around that time?
oohhh...oohhhh...
I know...I know...
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I think I finally crossed the line. That bus is adorable. It makes me go squeeeee on the inside. And the outside.

Dammit. *Hands off the Man Card* Take it, I don't deserve to have stolen it from my ex.
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... If you are looking for a "Road Warrior" capable of doing 75+MPH on the freeway... this certainly isn't it. I am sorry if you don't understand.
I can promise you that Bansil isn't under any illusion that a skoolie will do 75+mph on any freeway... unless it's freewheeling down the steep side on Monteagle Mountain on I24. In case you don't know, that is a stretch on I-24 between Nashville and Chattanooga that is so infamous it even made it into Jerry Reed's song "" and Johnny Cash's "" .

He is just as entitled to his opinion as you are. You are the one who is expousing a fuel that is notorious for needing lots of real estate to self-create. We have all seen plenty of the "I'm gonna make my own bio-fuel while traveling across the country" or "send me money to convert my bus because I'm a special person with a socially uplifting project" only to have those folks fade away after they run into problems with their project.
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RE: Bansil... WOW! Not only are you quick to your own conclusions - but, you also seem to be incredibly judgmental as well. Its unfortunate that you do not understand us, our goals, the concept... and I would suppose, just about everything else we would stand for in life. I will never be able to convince you otherwise and guess what... THATS OK! Its not my place to convince you or anyone else. I am simply here to share.

See we can all get along and have opinions , I do not like all the "projects" people post about on line wanting money to help them free load off the system, that's all

To answer your question regarding fuel storage... http://ourcascadia.blogspot.com/2014...-platform.html

that doesnt answer it, how will you make fuel on the road? i am curious, if you were here in TN. were would you get a couple tons of hemp for the oil? the part of the plant you smoke is easy to come by , the plants...I dont know????(if alcohol is used you need several hundred gallons)

again just curious



The vehicle operates fully using biodiesel as our primary fuel source. The vehicle currently has FOUR (4) 60-gallon fuel tanks mounted underneath: two fuel tanks up front and two fuel tanks in the middle (one on either side). This provides for 240 gallons of fuel storage capacity and a vehicle range of approximately 2500 miles. The tanks are all inter-connected and isolated by bronze ball-valves. This allows you to fill just one, two, three, or all four.

see above for storage of other things needed to make fuel......or you buy it at $3.79 a gallon, which is about a grand

unless you plan to go home every time you need fuel?????


If you are looking for a "Road Warrior" capable of doing 75+MPH on the freeway... this certainly isn't it. I am sorry if you don't understand.

This statement makes no sence, i leave it that way

now biggest issue is:

Every few months someone comes and talking this and that and first post links us to a Blog....go there and it seems everyone has kickstart or Indigo or.....really chaps me the wrong way

The free loading (501 non profit) to travel around on basically tax payers money (or should i say the lack of taxes put into the system)

I also dont believe churches should be able to us that either (different subject)

you have money or you have had alot of donations to rebuild the engine with quality parts and build the bus.

you have done a great job insulating and everything else

You have spent alot more than $750 to get this project were it is; so why ruin it trying to get alittle extra money


See? civil

Post more pictures as the project comes along, and if you get near me, stop in for a beer and we can chat


eta: these are my views and opinions, not this sites or anyone else......that is..... until my rights are further taken away
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so to enlighten me I have been reading, I notice it's the oil from the seeds and not the stalks (altho that can be refined as alcohol for gas products)

different cannabis plants also, interesting

How much raw bio diesel do you see out of say 5 gallons of hemp oil?

Do you plan to buy hemp oil or process your own?

Last question comes from sticker shock of processed hemp oil
from this site, I am sure there is better pricing, just tip of iceberg for my research into this

http://www.chii.ca/hemp-oil-prices.ihtml

$1499.60 for 52 gallons of oil, that is about $28 a gallon!

What kind of ratio is it mixed with regular diesel?

what is realistic price per gallon?

thank you for the answers!!

Also noticed some snake oil surrounding hemp oil, curing Cancer...

And it appears to be rather healthy in vitamins and such, neat

Since your planning on traveling and enlightening people to your ideas...I reckon I am your first customer


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