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08-09-2007, 07:55 PM
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Re: The Millicent Chronicles; two foot roof raise, big tailgate
Quote:
Originally Posted by Elliot Naess
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I ate a burrito that did that to me once, I wasn't regular for days. . .
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08-09-2007, 10:45 PM
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Re: The Millicent Chronicles; two foot roof raise, big tailgate
(I'd guess most of us are old enough to know Monty Python...)
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08-10-2007, 04:40 AM
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Bus Nut
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Re: The Millicent Chronicles; two foot roof raise, big tailgate
Your mother was a hamster and your father smelled of elderberries, you filthy English pig trough wiper!
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08-10-2007, 05:05 PM
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New Member
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Re: The Millicent Chronicles; two foot roof raise, big tailgate
hopefully the mention of hamsters doesn't go any further than it already has... So whats been going on with Millicent? (I think it needs a machine that goes "PING!")
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08-10-2007, 05:38 PM
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Bus Geek
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Re: The Millicent Chronicles; two foot roof raise, big tailgate
Hmmm... ??? PING???
Sonar? Big forehead like a dolphin, navigating by sound?
All right, yes, I've wasted too much time lately -- making a living and such. It's all this Stuff called "Life", you know. Right now I need to assemble 75 copies of my Lions Club newsletter, install labels and stamps, and take them to the post office. Then I'll be up to date.
So... It's a challenge! I accept! I shall do something worth while -- something to photograph -- on Millicent tonight!
"ping"????
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08-10-2007, 09:52 PM
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Bus Geek
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Re: The Millicent Chronicles; two foot roof raise, big tailgate
All righty then.
The problem:
And...
The solution. Yessssss, more sheet aluminum and rivets! Stand clear!
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08-10-2007, 10:32 PM
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Bus Geek
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Re: The Millicent Chronicles; two foot roof raise, big tailgate
Daylight is fading, but I got started:
I'm putting one long strip of metal across all four lights. Hopefully, that will give it a more... uh... a less jerry-rigged look. Back tomorrow.
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08-10-2007, 11:12 PM
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Bus Geek
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Re: The Millicent Chronicles; two foot roof raise, big tailgate
Monobrow on that big forehead?
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08-10-2007, 11:48 PM
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#249
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Bus Geek
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Re: The Millicent Chronicles; two foot roof raise, big tailgate
Buwwwahahahahahaha!
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08-11-2007, 07:30 PM
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Bus Geek
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Re: The Millicent Chronicles; two foot roof raise, big tailgate
I was right! I anticipated I might make a Royal Mess out of this, AND I DID! I love it when I’m right!
But let’s take it from the top.
Having cut the Mono-Eyebrow from a sheet of (free!) aluminum, and sanded and cleaned the Upper Forehead in preparation for painting and installation of said Mono-Brow, I decided it was too hot in the sun to install it now. So I set a fan inside Millicent and proceeded with the Pouring Of The Foam inside the Forehead. The plywood that had been cut out for two of the new windows turned out to be perfect for the new bulkhead inside the Forehead.
The idea was to set the bulkhead in place, a bit loose, pour the foam between the Forehead and the bulkhead, then.. as the foam expanded and started hardening, push the bulkhead forward to apply permanent pressure on the Forehead -- creating a nice smooth convex Forehead that will not “oil can” in the wind.
And that worked. Just look!
(Crowd in unison: “Ooooooo!”)
There are some small wrinkles still, but the big waves are GONE.
There was, however, a slight Cluster Blunder along the way. (Crowd: “Uh, oh!”)
And that’s just what fell on the stairs, where it’s easy to clean. (Crowd: “Awwwwwwwwww.”)
(And I don't want to hear anything about the "Watch Your Step" sign!)
The foam is X-30 from Tap Plastics. You mix Part A and Part B, and the resulting goop expands 30-fold before it becomes solid. There is a chemical reaction and some resulting heat involved. The “sink-proofing” compartments in your fiberglass boat are full of the stuff.
Only trouble is, it’s 90 degrees Fahrenheit here this afternoon. At least. So there was a bit of heat already in the mixture when I mixed it... and... holy-mother-of-pearl-this-stuff-is-expanding-right-in-my-lap-and-spilling-all-over-the-plaaaaaaaaaiiiiiiiiiiiiii.... (Imagine Jon, of Garfield the Cat, running thru the house with his hair on fire.) X-30 is expensive, so I didn’t want to waste the stuff.
How do I cope with this sort of Cluster Blunder? No problem. I simply make a Time Zone adjustment. Straight to Miller Time. Just kidding. But I had a real good laugh, patted myself on the back for anticipating that something like this might happen (never mind that I allowed it to happen!), took a shower, combed some X-30 out of my hair -- kind’a like getting cockleburs out of the cat -- and now I’ll admire the result -- and spend the evening cleaning up the mess. All is well. In fact, better -- I’m making progress again!
Here is the bulkhead:
Crude, but functional, and it will all be covered up. The two small wood blocks are jamming the plywood forward while the foam hardens.
And here you can see the foam thru the old SB Blinking Lamp hole:
The plywood and the foam are almost the same color, so I’ll describe: There are three things in that round hole. The top third is the dark background -- Millicents’s interior. The middle third is the top of the plywood bulkhead. And the bottom third is foam.
As it cools off out there, I’ll keep after it until dark.
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08-12-2007, 04:43 AM
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Skoolie
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Re: The Millicent Chronicles; two foot roof raise, big tailgate
Decades ago I worked for a carnaval ride builder...that foam is a kick to play with and we built a lot of our rides useing it as a starting place for the molds we would use for the fiberglass/plastic parts.
And yeah, the hotter it is the fast that stuff kicks in to high gear
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08-12-2007, 09:28 AM
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#252
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Bus Geek
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Re: The Millicent Chronicles; two foot roof raise, big tailgate
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08-12-2007, 02:09 PM
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Skoolie
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Re: The Millicent Chronicles; two foot roof raise, big tailgate
yeah it was fun, but I'll never ride one again...but I did learn a lot about fiberglass/foam/plastic while I was there...even did a little wiring and painting.
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08-12-2007, 02:35 PM
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#254
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Bus Geek
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Re: The Millicent Chronicles; two foot roof raise, big tailgate
I didn't say I wanted to ride the horrible things!
Some years ago I built a 14 foot tall Ferris Wheel as a Christmas decoration. Mostly sprinkler pipe. 1/4 HP electric motor. Teddy bears for passengers. Lit up the whole neighborhood. I think I'll take it with me to Burning Man this year -- IF I can get back to working on Millicent now!
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08-12-2007, 02:50 PM
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Bus Geek
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Re: The Millicent Chronicles; two foot roof raise, big tailgate
I'm working on Millicent's forehead -- honest!
New aluminum skin primered. Riveting Mono-Brow in place now.
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08-12-2007, 08:18 PM
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Re: The Millicent Chronicles; two foot roof raise, big tailgate
That looks like super duper "Great Stuff". I wonder how much of it would be required to make Millie float... I wonder if "Great Stuff may do to the job just as well, or in this case maybe a bit less might be desirable. BTW, here's the scoop on the "ping machine":
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08-13-2007, 12:57 AM
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#257
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Bus Geek
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Re: The Millicent Chronicles; two foot roof raise, big tailgate
I know, this is not as exiting as jacking the roof up two feet. But that job still needs finishing, and it's getting there.
The monobrow was intended to blend in better than two separate patches, and I think it works. Looks like a destination sign, rather than SB lamps. The idea is to paint "Millicent" on that "sign".
About the Ping Machine -- I don't remember seeing that skit before, but wow, that could be about the american health care system today!
And that ping sound certainly is a sonar ping -- as in Run Silent, Run Deep. Yes, some gadgets like that would be perfect for Millicent, The Mobile Command Center And Tea Parlour!
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08-13-2007, 02:59 PM
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Re: The Millicent Chronicles; two foot roof raise, big tailgate
To really do it up you'd need a sweet roof ornament...something like this:
It's Millicent's big sister!
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08-13-2007, 04:14 PM
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#259
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Bus Geek
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Re: The Millicent Chronicles; two foot roof raise, big tailgate
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08-13-2007, 04:55 PM
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Re: The Millicent Chronicles; two foot roof raise, big tailgate
I like the way the monobrow turned out. It looks really good. I think the riveting rather than just sticking in place with some substance from a tube (the method I would have used after my welder made some holes in the metal) makes a HUGE difference. You continue to amaze me, Elliot.
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