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Old 12-27-2006, 10:42 PM   #41
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That’s a great idea, Les! A truss would provide strength/stiffness to the ramp.

But there is a second element to the ramp that I have not mentioned yet:
Due to the high floor of the bus, I plan to build a bi-fold ramp. I have a “slab” of
aluminum, 8 feet x 10 feet 5 inches, quite stiff -- maybe 1/8 thick with an inch thick
ledge around the sides. (I have no idea what it was, but it looks very air cargo.)
The idea is to cut it in half and get a ramp 5’ 2 ½” wide and 16 feet long. See top drawing.

I’m also toying with the idea of making a beavertail in the floor -- see bottom
drawing. Would require taking a slice out of the frame rails, but with these
cut-off blades, that seems perfectly doable.



Yes, I have no shortage of ideas and ambitions!

Right now, I’ll settle for getting off the fence and cutting the top loose so I can
start jacking when the wind dies down. Sometimes you have to do SOMETHING,
even if it is wrong. Oh, somebody thought of that earlier:

"You may never know what results come from your action.
But if you do nothing, there will be no result."
--Mahatma Gandhi
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Old 12-28-2006, 08:22 AM   #42
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Hey...I like that saying! Reminds me of "Do something! Even if it's wrong!"...that from my brain after I stand staring at something forever trying to make up my mind (doesn't help that I'm a Libra! ).

So? Does the ramp close in the back of the bus? That is, is it the actual "door" or closure that seals up the back? Or is it just along for the ride with a door ahead of it?

Now I'm going to have to go out and stare at the back of my Blue Bird!
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Old 12-28-2006, 09:39 AM   #43
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Ramp system

I'm going to cut out only the back panel down to the bottom of the bumper. I'll leave the top cap to create some strength then brace the rear opening. I want the rear of the bus to look like a bus and not a hack job of ramp system. In the end you should only see a seal around the side where the back panel closes. As soon as the weather breaks here in Michigan I'll get started.

I'll use a couple of short bump stops to hit the ground so the back panel never has to then I'll have a 18 inch flip panel to creat a short little ramp to the main ramp.

Once you measure everthing out it creates a nice ramp angle if you include 3 feet of beaver tail inside the bus.
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Old 12-28-2006, 10:33 AM   #44
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I figure the ramp will be the door. Build ramp and door frame assembly on the
garage floor, then graft door frame into bus. But today I'll just cut it somewhere
-- anywhere! -- so I'm ready when the wind quits.

Three feet of beaver tail in the floor sounds about right. It will only gain a few inches
at the bumper, but worth while since it looks super easy to do. "Scraping off" the plywood
would gain one more inch.

No lift today -- quite a blow out there.
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I finally figured out how to post images. This is how I'm planning to cut the back end off. I have a 4 seater sand rail that will go in the back.





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Old 12-28-2006, 03:33 PM   #46
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Hey, that's not a bad idea, Rail Hauler! I'll ponder that option while I keep drilling
rivets and whatnot.

Jacks are bolted in and ready to launch. But man, it's blowing like a herd of
turbochargers out there!
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Elliot Naess
But man, it's blowing like a herd of
turbochargers out there!
I'm going to have to remember that one.
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“Millicent, this is Houston. We have an update for you. The Weather Service
promises us a launch window opening at 10 in the morning.”

“Roger.”

“Millicent, this is Fred. Roger went out for pizza. Please confirm four jacks are
mounted.”

“Houston, confirming four jacks mounted.”

“Millicent, please confirm the rear cap is separated.”

“Houston, confirming rear cap separated.”

“Millicent, we are restarting your countdown at Lift minus 13 hours and counting.”

“Dude.”

“Dude.”

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Old 12-29-2006, 08:36 AM   #49
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Do you think you could do a web cam feed? I'm at my work computer all day long and would love to watch!

Seriously...best wishes for a safe and successful lift.

It wasn't until I saw the photo above with your lift apparatus in place that I realized how tall those jacks are...wow! That's a very nice setup. You're almost making me feel like I can do it too.

If I do go for the lift one challenge that I have is that my window posts (bus frames) are not vertical. Starting at the top of the side wall (bottom of the window) they lean toward the inside of the bus by an inch at the top over the 22.5" height of the windows. If I raise the roof 12" (that would be the plan) I don't know how to add-in the new extension pieces and marry up the angles of the remaining top and bottom sections of the original post. I may have to do some very careful measuring and a CAD drawing to see what the issues really are.
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Old 12-29-2006, 09:55 AM   #50
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All done! Wow, this went even quicker than I expected!




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