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Old 11-03-2014, 09:08 PM   #671
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Re: The Millicent Chronicles; two foot roof raise, big tailg

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Old 11-03-2014, 10:18 PM   #672
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Re: The Millicent Chronicles; two foot roof raise, big tailg

Loved your story on tires but you failed to mention tire size my bus has 12R 22.5 tires would hope that I can find them as cheap as you got yours.
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Old 11-04-2014, 12:43 AM   #673
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Re: The Millicent Chronicles; two foot roof raise, big tailg

Millicent uses 295/75R22.5. That means "low profile" tires, compared with the "standard" type you have. Prices shouldn't be horribly different for tires of similar load rating. Mine are probably roughly equivalent to 11s, so your 12s might be a little bit more.

My new tire is a Toyo M-157. The M-157 is approved for steering, but is primarily a trailer tire. He did not have the flavor that is primarily recommended for steering. I'm sure I will never know the difference.

Now that I'm looking at the invoice.... I remembered the price wrong. The tire cost $465 plus California sales tax. The total was 533, of which he refunded the 30 for the "sand". So a couple bucks over 500.

8 years ago I paid $220 each for the Double Coins, plus sales tax. So maybe I shouldn't complain. (Of course, that price was my employer's price, and we bought a lot of tires from old uncle Leslie. But I don't work there anymore.)

So... what's your Les Schwab story? Siping?
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Old 11-08-2014, 09:50 AM   #674
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Re: The Millicent Chronicles; two foot roof raise, big tailg

Still brainstorming about tires....
What to do with the remaining 8-year-old Double Coin after I replace it?
My first thought was to carry it as a spare. But it would require a storage compartment to be built, which would take up precious space, and even the weight is a concern because I scaled Millicent on a recent trip and she was right up against the rated limit.

8 years ago I decided against carrying a spare, and against carrying wheel-changing tools. But I'm perfectly capable of changing my mind, even in a cramped space -- ha, ha. I'm still disinclined to carry the wheel, but maybe I should carry the tools. Then, if I have a flat on the rear, I can remove it before the tire is ruined, and ease her into the next town on one tire. (Except on that one annual trip when she is heavily loaded.)
And if I have a flat on the front, I could transfer a rear wheel to the front. (Same.)

So.... Do you have any experience with this sort of thing? I already have a 10-ton bottle jack. I can buy a 1" long-snout 2,000 lbs/ft impact air wrench for around $200. Another $50 for a 1/2" hose. I could install a separate air tank with 1/2" outlet in an otherwise unusable spot.

Having (mis)spent 27 years driving 18-wheelers, I know better than to try loosening these nuts with a manual tool. Been there, done....

Thoughts? Ideas? Knowledge?
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Old 11-08-2014, 10:24 AM   #675
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Re: The Millicent Chronicles; two foot roof raise, big tailg

You don't need to go to the expense of an air impact wrench to remove lug nuts. On E-bay they sell some torque multipliers that are made for the job, the one I got is a 78 to 1 which came with sockets and all for under a Hundred. It makes the job so much easier and takes up less space than the Impact tool itself and you can loosen up even the tightest lug nut with one hand even the wife can take them loose with one hand, no 6-8 foot bar to break them loose. They talked about them
over on the Wanderlodge website. Compact and very handy.
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Old 11-08-2014, 10:40 AM   #676
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Re: The Millicent Chronicles; two foot roof raise, big tailg

I have seen ads for those, but my gut tells me they may not be so handy as the ads and published reviews claim. Any first-hand experience?
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Old 11-08-2014, 11:41 AM   #677
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All right... now I have looked at some ads and videos of these torque multipliers. They are different from the kind I remember from years ago. These look like they might do the job. I would buy the best known brand name for quality -- nothing generic.

One concern.... At least one manufacturer claims that the nuts can be re-torqued correctly by marking them before loosening, and tightening until the mark lines up again. This might be a reasonable approximation if you are putting the same rim back on, but if you are installing a different rim, the thickness of the material is almost certain to be sufficiently different to make this method useless.

So I would want to carry a plain manual tool also. Even better, of course, a torque wrench, but I'm thinking that a 3-foot bar would get me in the ballpark of 500 pound/feet.

Of course (again!), I would want to do the same if I used a 2,000 pound/feet pneumatic wrench for loosening. I cringe when I see shops tighten nuts with those.
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Old 11-08-2014, 12:30 PM   #678
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Re: The Millicent Chronicles; two foot roof raise, big tailg






Let’s do the rest of the END OF SEASON REPORT while I’m in the groove.

In a previous post we recounted the clogged fuel filter on the first warm-up drive of the season. Lesson learned: Change filters more often, perhaps specially when taking the beast out of mothballs; and use a fuel storage additive to prevent growth of organic organisms in the fuel during the winter hiatus. Power Service Bio Kleen is intended for this purpose, and is claimed to be available in many auto parts stores. But I couldn’t find it, even though they carry many other Power Service additives, so maybe this is one to buy online.

And now, just the other day, Millicent declined to start after a refueling stop, cranking normally but not firing. Turned out, the secondary fuel filter – the little one on the engine -- was loose.
Did I not install it tightly enough? That seems likely. But we can also take the opportunity to remember that machinery vibrates, and vibrations can do strange things. So from now on I will check the snugness of all filters after each trip. The smart way is to paint a mark on the filter after it is installed, lined up with a fixed reference point.

Other maintenance this season included greasing the chassis. The most important item may be king-pins. I “swear” I noticed the steering became lighter as a result. To grease a king-pin, you jack up the axle to take the weight off the tire. This allows the grease to get into the normally loaded areas of the bushings. Back in the day... I heard of truckers who did this every morning! I pledge to do it before every trip in the future.

A few weeks ago, I finally did something about the gaping void where the rear bumper used to be. I cut up two dirt-track racing tires and fitted tread sections around the corners, leaving the middle open for the trailer hitch.

Millicent also has a new trailer hitch ball. This one is a couple inches lower, to reduce the difference in ball height between Millicent and my pick-m-up-truck. The lower ball means a higher risk of scraping the ground, so this ball is welded to its bar, rather than having a stud-and-nut protruding underneath. This design is becoming available commercially, but not in an 8 inch drop, so a certified welder with much experience in trailer hitches made one up for me.

Henry Ford is supposed to have said that one cannot build a reputation on intentions. But this winter Millicent must, shall and will receive belts, hoses and other work that requires removal of the radiator.
An element of this much-delayed project is the fact that my health has finally been properly restored over this summer. Thank you, Medicare! So everything is full steam ahead.

Now a word about fresh water in camping vehicles. Tap water at my house comes out of Clear Lake, which is never anything resembling clear, and is currently infested with even more algae than usual, to the point that the water district cannot treat it adequately, and we are drinking bottled water at the house.
One day I found a red deposit in Millicent’s shower stall, as if someone had spilled a glass of Merlot in there. To wash it down I turned on the water – which stank to high heaven. More red residue was found in the fresh water tank.
Much bleach was consumed in sterilizing the system, followed by rinsing with much water from a different water district far from Clear Lake.
I always add ¼ cup bleach to 50 gallons water, but it wasn’t enough. Something to keep in mind.


Overall… another splendidly successful season for Millicent The Bus!
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Re: The Millicent Chronicles; two foot roof raise, big tailg

For me its worth it to carry a spare. Probably more just ease of mind thing. I just carry the tire, no rim. I almost all the time have a trailer in tow, so it just goes on there. However, after this summer, I plan on finding a spot under the bus somewhere for it. July 5th, on our way home from ND we were 40 or so miles north of Mitchell SD when my two year old retread with 6500 mi. decided to come apart. I just limped the bus the rest of the way at about 30mph, just because I didn't want the rest of the tread coming off causing more damage. Got to the I90 truck stop at 6pm they closed at 5:30, it was Saturday. Although they were to be open the next morning at 9am. Went across the interstate and parked in the Cabela's parking lot for the night. Next morning went back over at 8:30am and caught the manager, he said he was booked till noon. He had me park next to the shop bays. I unloaded my spare and propped it up against the bus. Five minutes later manager comes over says he will do it himself, nice guy! Moral of my story, $42 and 20 minutes later we were on the road again. Overall I got pretty lucky, being outer dual and not having to break down the daytons. But either way, I don't see myself changing one. At least having the tire, I know I won't get totally screwed on price for some middle of nowhere tire shop. Although they might get me on the service call.

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My spare, I would rather it be a steer, but the price was right, $0. If it were just a matter of getting home, I would have them put it on the front just to get home.
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Re: The Millicent Chronicles; two foot roof raise, big tailg

Many truckers do indeed carry just a tire, no rim. They often wrap the tire in plastic stretch wrap, to keep dirt out of the inside cavity.
And I have seen the outer tire of duals replaced without touching the lug nuts -- just drive the inner up on a block. One time... I watched the man at the tiny Bonneville Speedway exit in Utah do this in four or five seconds! Likewise popping the new one on! Very impressive. Gives me renewed hope for mankind when I meet people who bother to become very good at their work.
Of course, I likewise impress people when I do the same with bicycles. Great fun!

Now.... As I plan for becoming self-sufficient in this respect.... If a front tire goes flat, the axle will be very close to the ground, and I will not get the bottle jack under it. So I need to develop some tool or method for this. Anybody?
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