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Old 09-21-2016, 07:34 PM   #781
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for all the Hate it gets im really impressed by my International 5.9 (DT-360).. it moves my bus along nicely.. it will run it at 68 if I really wanted it to...

displacement is part of it but how the engine is set up is a bigger part of what it can do.
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Old 09-21-2016, 09:10 PM   #782
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for all the Hate it gets im really impressed by my International 5.9 (DT-360).. it moves my bus along nicely.. it will run it at 68 if I really wanted it to...

displacement is part of it but how the engine is set up is a bigger part of what it can do.
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Who's hating on the DT360?
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Old 09-21-2016, 09:23 PM   #783
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all I ever hear is "its too small get a DT466".. even though people get 5.9 cummins all the time and have no issues... they have about the same HP / TQ ratings as a DT-360 (esp a later DT-360)...

while we all know the DT-466 and the 7.3 / T444E are excellent powerplants.. I see some DT-360 busses going at really low prices on the auction sites...

point being that for someone looking for a budget bus the DT-360 isnt going to limit them to 40 MPH on the freeway... Granted its not gonna scream up the hills like a 466 (though the redline on the DT-360 is safe at 2700-2900)...

im in 100% agreement that one of the best drivetrains out there is a DT-466 coupled with a 643 or 2000 series allison.. but those busses also often demand premium prices ...

just like buying busses with road A/C all so it can be yanked out and thrown in the garbage by many converters.. A/C busses command a premium.. dont buy it unless you plan to keep it and use it...

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Old 09-22-2016, 06:00 AM   #784
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Right. But having been on this site pretty regularly, I can't say I've ever heard any ill spoken of the smallest of the DT's. I certainly think its better than a 5.9 Cummins, too, fwiw.
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Old 09-22-2016, 01:15 PM   #785
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Annnd... this is beginning to resemble "thread drift".

Yes, of course the tiny 5.9 is pathetically under-sized/powered for 38,000 pounds going over the Sierra Nevadas and such climbs.

On the other hand, it gets us there, and the downside is only that it takes a couple extra hours. Well... and creates a traffic hazard.

I keep toying with the idea of a larger engine. Of course, I would have to find it at a "highway robbery" price.

And a big stick-shift transmission.

And the REALLY cool thing to do would be to install such an engine under the floor, like the old Crowns. Cummins does make "horizontal" versions of some engines, such as the L10 and M11. Many of these were sold to England. But maybe a normal vertical engine can be converted with a few parts that can be bought over the counter?
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I do not see it in my Inbox.
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I do not see it in my Inbox.
Just tried again.
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Stu, I sent a second reply. I may have found the man in question.
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