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Old 09-26-2015, 11:56 AM   #1
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Shalom,
My name is Alex, and I'm representing a group of seven seniors who want to get a bus. We have found your forum to be quite helpful, and a valuable resource. I just have a few questions that will hopefully get us up and moving. We have found a 1999 international at an Auction, and will most likely be buying it in the near future.

Our plan-
We are looking to install multiple beds and couches (possible hammocks). Small kitchen with a fridge and microwave. A TV would be nice. We are entertaining the idea room storage. We do NOT need plumbing.

I have a few questions, please excuse me if they are another thread.

What are practical ways to build in storage?
Whats the best cheap way to build beds? Bunk beds? I saw a picture of a couch turning into a bunk. I'll post pictures.
What about the best paint to use on the outside? Cost is in serious consideration, so money should be considered in all aspects of this build.
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Old 09-26-2015, 12:34 PM   #2
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We are looking to install multiple beds and couches (possible hammocks). Small kitchen with a fridge and microwave.
You may need a stove to get retitled as an rv

We do NOT need plumbing.
You may need this too to get titled as an rv.

I have a few questions, please excuse me if they are another thread.
They are in all kinds of other threads

What are practical ways to build in storage? Do you want it to look nice? If not making an over sized shelf for plastic storage totes works.

Whats the best cheap way to build beds? Mattress on the floor duh!

Bunk beds? I guess, I mean those can be done with studs, and foam on the cheap and efficient use of space too

I saw a picture of a couch turning into a bunk. This has been known to happen in most college apartments you can find a device called a futon or a sleeper sofa but you can make one yourself.

I'll post pictures. Please do that.

What about the best paint to use on the outside? Rustolium enamel, because it is cheap and found everywhere.
Cost is in serious consideration, so money should be considered in all aspects of this build.
Thank you,
-The Slippery Seven
I would also suggest you read some build logs like IDK 20 of them that go until completion. As they would have answered a lot of the questions with out me being snarky. I understand your enthusiasm but you have about 30 more hours of reading ahead of you

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Old 09-26-2015, 06:01 PM   #3
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7 seniors with out plumbing I agree with other poster it may be needed to register as rv, bunk beds made from 2x3 lumber would be the best, as for other parts of you build there's lots to read.
A lot really depends on how you are going to use this bus, short, or long trips, live in it full time, once you figure that out it will be easer to answer some of you questions.
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Old 09-26-2015, 08:51 PM   #4
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When I was a submariner, we all had what we called 'Coffin racks.' I've thought about doing something similar for guests on my '92 Mini-Bird.

Basically build a shallow shelving unit, say 2-4" deep, and then use a heavy-duty piano hinge or something similar to attached a cover to the shelf that is also the base for your mattress/futon pad to sleep on.

If you build these using ALL of your available space, you should be able to fit three bunks top-bottom while giving everyone enough room to sit-up, or mostly sit-up in their bunk.

Wiring RV electricity is something you should look around before doing. If you're running LPG appliances for the kitchen, and minimal current draws for the remaining items, you might want to look into investing into a solar system, battery bank, and a sizable inverter--an 1800W inverter can get you roughly the output of a single household 15-Amp 110 VAC circuit. If you're going to want to plug up into an RV outlet places, then you're going to need to invest a bit more in getting the electrical side done up professionally, unless one of you is majoring in electrical engineering or something similar. Either way, if you're expecting to be able to roll up to places and just plug in a 20-Amp 110 VAC extension cord, you'll be sorely disappointed most places.

Most states REQUIRE plumbing to be registered as an RV... but I'd imagine there are a number of states that may be somewhat lax in actually verifying that... Always follow the laws.
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Old 09-28-2015, 01:44 PM   #5
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Just wanted to thank everyone for their initial imput! I think those "coffin racks" sound like a good use of space.
In montana to be titled as an R.V. it needs to have four of the following.
1) Cooking, refrigerator or icebox
2) Self-contained toilet
3) Potable water supply system, including a faucet and sink.
4) Heating or air conditioning, or both
5) Separate 110V or 125V electrical power supply or an LP supply or both.

As we are deffinitely not plumbers, we will most likely skip the toilet function. But I saw an idea for a self contained sink that looks possible. My friends dad is an electrition, so we will have him to help us out with wiring a fridge. The bus has heat and ac already. But the other requirement is more of a chalenge. What would we have to do meet this requirement? Really dont want to setup a solar system.
More thinking if we could get the running bus to charge a battery bank. I dont think a mini fridge just holding drinks should take too much power.
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Old 09-28-2015, 02:18 PM   #6
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High School/College seniors!
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Old 09-28-2015, 02:31 PM   #7
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I'm not sure that the buses AC/Heat will count as one of those 4 items since you'll be needing it when the bus isn't running, and you won't be able to use it when the bus is off. just my $.02.
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Old 09-28-2015, 02:59 PM   #8
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High School/College seniors!
For real, before dons post, I was only imagining 7 70+ year olds...
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I saw someone bus where they had good "cheater" sink + stove. It was a freebie old camper sink with a hand pump that dumped into a 5 gal pail with lid. Only had to work for inspection. And a Coleman or other camp stove would count.
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Old 09-29-2015, 01:14 AM   #10
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I saw this idea on a bus on craigslist. While i'm not going to be buying this bus, I think this bunk bed idea is really cool.








This all seems like an incredibly functional piece of furniture. Has anybody made something like this before? Any ideas are appreciated.
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