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Old 12-19-2009, 01:50 PM   #11
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Re: Huh? What just happened?

My only other input for your 8.2: it (and I think most of our engines) uses a solenoid to shut off fuel and kill the engine. On the 8.2 it's near the front top, just in front of the air cleaner. Has 2 wires going to it. If it fails, the engine won't get fuel, and won't start. It will however run momentarily with a shot of ether. This is the only problem I had with mine. Fortunately it worked after it cooled down, and I finished my trip. It's a good thing to know where it is. If I remember, it has 3 3/16 allen bolts securing it. If the engine will crank and crank, but won't start, it may be the culprit. Mine got so hot it started smoking. Taking the solenoid off may allow the engine to be run, but you'll have to reach in and push/pull the shutoff manually to start and stop the engine. Useful info to keep in the back of your head, from one who went through the troubleshooting!
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Old 12-19-2009, 10:07 PM   #12
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I found something interesting while looking up some info about your bus. Check this out: Go to the Gates website http://www.vindecipher.com/gates/ and type in the VIN number of the bus, which is 1GDM6P1FXJV501294. You'll see the engine is actually listed as a 6.5L turbo diesel? So either the VIN decoder is wrong (I think that's pretty unlikely but maybe possible), the seller doesn't know what he has (seems possible), or that's not the original engine. Ask the guy of he knows anything about this.

A 6.5 liter turbo would be what a GM/Detroit engine? But...I thought they only had 6.2's until the early 90's, and then the 6.5 from then on up. I'm confused.
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Old 12-20-2009, 07:23 PM   #13
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I guess I'll find out tomorrow! I'm in Denver now because a friend could take me tonight versus my wife a 2AM. I can't wait! I'll post pics and an update.
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Old 12-23-2009, 02:30 PM   #14
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I just got home now. It was a long couple days...the bus ran perfect, really much better than expected. I'm going to rest up for a bit, then work on my story (with pictures).

I'm so glad to be home...with my new Skoolie!

Ben.
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Old 12-23-2009, 03:28 PM   #15
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An exciting event I remember it well, welcome to a lot of work.
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Old 12-23-2009, 07:15 PM   #16
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So the trip went something like this...

12-20-2009, Sunday, because I'm really cheap & just bought this bus, I bummed a ride out to Denver to catch my plane Monday morning. I spent most of the day hoping from store to store with friends doing last minute Christmas shopping, all the while dreaming of my bus. At 6:30-ish PM we head for the airport so that my friends can pick up their daughter who is flying in and drop me off. So I spend the next 11 hours at the Denver airport trying to get some sleep. I was a little paranoid that someone would jack my stuff, so I didn't sleep well, plus waaaay too excited.

Finally, at 5:30 AM, Monday, I board my plane for Chicago. The flight out of Denver wasn't pleasant. I was hoping that this would be the bumpiest ride of the day. Luckily, it was. I was irrated that wifi @ Chicago costs money. I only had an hour or so layover, and I'm cheap, so I didn't want to pay for wifi for my laptop. Denver was free! So I just used my phone instead. So I had a little something to do. The plane for Dayton was only a 52 passenger or something like that. I kept thinking "My bus seats more people than this!" I had about the worst seat on the plane, but the flight attendant let me upgrade to a better seat...which was totally awesome. My experiences in flying are nearly always fantastic or completely miserable...not much in between. I think we were on the runway longer than in the air.

Finally touchdown in Dayton. I met Ron at the airport. Nice guy, really helpful, but clueless about this bus. I think I got 110% of the information about the bus that he knew from him. He bought the bus at an auction for $730...a total steal! When he told me that, I didn't feel bad about only giving $1250. He had maybe two months storage fees and a change of title fees. He made easy money. Probably not doubling it like he wanted but a $300-$400 profit isn't too shabby. Oh yeah, while in the Chicago airport, I talked to the guy who maintained the bus for the school it came from. He had really great things to say about it. He said that he'd scan and email me the maintenance records after Christmas sometime...hopefully, he follows through.

So we got to the bus and Ron tells me that he put two new group 31 batteries in this morning and that he'd like me to split the cost with him. I didn't really need the new batteries because I have a new 4D battery at home, but I figured what the heck. The guy from the school hinted that they probably were about shot. So I chipped in my $75 share. The bus was in the same position as it was in the eBay ad and they had some snow on the ground so I knew that it hadn't moved in awhile. I wanted to see if there were puddles underneath. It was scary clean. I mean there was white rock underneath the bus and it was still all very white. So he threw me the keys and it fired right up! At little smoke at first, but cleared up and disappeared altogether. So I checked the lights and brakes, fluids, etc. Everything was good. I still couldn't believe that the motor was still that tightly sealed, so I followed him the Wally World to grab oil, anti-freeze, etc.

It rode and drove like a dream! I still couldn't get over how good this thing appeared to be! I kept expecting it to take a dump at anytime. After my Wal-Mart run, it was on to St. Joseph, IL to crash at a friend's house. I hadn't seen him and his wife in four years, so it was about time. They've had two kids since then, and Brooks finally got his 71 Plymouth 'Cuda running. It's been a 12+ year project...it was worth the wait. I didn't take any pictures of the car...I did of the block long black marks we left though! Actually, I took some video which I'll have to post somewhere "later."

Anyway, some pictures...

It was 292 miles for the first leg of the trip. No speed records were broken. The bus has no tach...bummer. So I just kept it between 55-60. It got me there with no problems at all. I stopped at a rest area and talked with a woman heading west as well. *Somehow* the conversation turned to this silver bus she passed a little while ago on the interstate. I told her it was me and what plans I had for it. She thought it was pretty neat. She then suggested that we take different routes through Indianapolis and meet on the other side. I told her she's win regardless, the "Silver Snail" wasn't going to win any races...that's just a name I'm kicking around. Nothing for sure yet. Anyway, she must have taken a different route because she did wave as she passed me again this time. It was kind of neat to be recognized.

Stay tuned, there's more...
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Old 12-23-2009, 08:10 PM   #17
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Then Tuesday morning, after a wild ride in the 'Cuda, I left St. Joseph for home...hopefully. Unfortunately, I only made it to Hay, KS, 140 miles from home. When I woke up...finally...this is what I saw under the bus...well, the file is too big to attach. You wouldn't have seen anything anyway. There was no drips, leaks or puddles! I honestly couldn't believe it. Again, without being plugged in, it fired right off. It's actually a little scary how fast it fires. There's usually a crank or two, but it's just "hit the key and it's running." Awesome! All of my pictures of the motor are over 1MB so I can't attach them. I'll have to work on that. This was leaving from St. Joseph. I love Casey's pizza, so I had some for dinner the night before and breakfast that morning. It was a good day. I had to drive one town away to get fuel, NO PLACE in St. Joseph has diesel. So I drove back to Ogden (5 miles) and fueled up. One of the best parts to the visit is that my buddy called me later and said that he might start looking around for a short bus! With two little ones, they're looking at bigger vehicles...they detest minivans and want a diesel conversion van, but can't find one. So we might have someone joining the shorty ranks someday!!!

I made it as far as Columbia, MO before needing to fuel again. That was a 338 mile jaunt. Again, things went smoothly. Most of the people I'd met waved and were really friendly. I did get my first "bird" in St. Louis. St. Louis traffic wasn't fun. It wasn't really heavy traffic, but just enough of a pain and people were generally rude and had no tolerance of a school bus. The next stop was a Wal-Mart in Oak Grove, MO. I needed to get some cash for the Kansas Turnpike coming up...did I mention I left my debit card at home Sunday? Nope. That sucked.

Moneygram to the rescue. My strangely supportive wife wired me money so I could get fuel. I put it on a WalMart debit card so I didn't have to carry large amounts of cash, but I needed cash for the turnpike. So from the fuel stop to WalMart was about 80 miles. Next stop was Hay, KS 290 miles away!

Getting through Kansas City wasn't a problem. I'm there enough. Got across the turnpike without a hassle. I did get out of the bus to walk up to the window to get the ticket (forgot to put the bus in neutral, I realized when I got back in...air brakes work great, thanks for asking!) and to pay. It was nice to stretch legs. The closer I got to Hays, the weather was taking a turn for the worse. I saw a one car rollover accident and the aftermath of two 18-wheelers and bridge. Not sure what happened there and if both drivers had on their seat belts, I'm sure they walked away, but their tractors were toast. So I decided to shut it down in Hays for the night. Just 140 miles from home.

My plan was to just run the bus for a few hours...I got there about midnight. But it was seriously cold without the heat, so I had to run the bus. I was really surprised at how little fuel the bus used in 6 hours. So I left Hays, bound for Goodland at about 7:30 AM. This is what I had to deal with for the next two hours or so...at 20-35 miles per hour...

Once I got to Oakley, KS, the road cleared, was pretty much dry and it was sprint to the barn. It was about 55 mph the rest of the 70-ish miles home. Remember that nice clean bus I bought? This is what she looked like when I brought her to see my wife...
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Old 12-23-2009, 08:17 PM   #18
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Lastly, after my wife checking out the bus, the bus had to deal with her harshest critic...

I think she passed. That's Snowball. Anyway, that's my 1149 mile journey to get the bus home. I'm not 100% set on a name for her yet. I've decided on a gender though...female...certainly. I'm thinking about "Investment INsanity." We'll see if the kids come up with something better.

I have some videos that are in no way as good as TigerCubs, or anyone else's for that matter. But I'll try to post them on YouTube "later." Now the fun begins!

And now you know the rest of the story...

Thanks,
Ben & Lesa...Brian, Xavier, Taylor, Cole, Logan, and Snowball...and a bunch of cats...and three horses!
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Old 12-23-2009, 09:17 PM   #19
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you have a wonderful looking bus
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Old 12-25-2009, 12:45 AM   #20
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I'll have to look you up if/when I make it back home...should be easy enough.....Goodlands not that big that hiding that bus would be easy *grin*
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