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Old 10-04-2010, 06:36 PM   #31
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Thanks everyone for the positive comments. Timing was everything on getting a large enough paint booth. It was last weekend, or pretty much wasn't going to happen till spring. It's great having alot of friends in different trades and facilities. However, I think I've used up alot of my favors. But, I'm always willing to help them out when need be too. So after neglecting the family this week, I will be spending as much time with them as I can this week.

Lulu what was the reason for staying away from tyvek, just curious?
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Old 10-14-2010, 12:38 PM   #32
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Question for Smitty.. I've tried searching alittle, but I was hoping someone could post a link on how to convert a chest type freezer to fridge. I read alittle about the condensation, any other drawbacks, and what's involved in converting?

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Old 10-14-2010, 07:03 PM   #33
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Sorry, for the stupid questions. But its easier to ask, then to try and look them up. So are you running a converter (dc to ac) to power the freezer off your solar panels/batteries?
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Old 10-20-2010, 06:35 PM   #34
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Hey nice ride man! The Dt 466 is an awesome powerplant. Even though I have a cummins in my bus( I trust it to no end) I have the 466 e in my 02 IH dump truck and it has plenty of power to pull. I always liked the look of that hood on your bus too. Overall the bus looks soild, good luck on your build
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Old 12-26-2010, 02:22 PM   #35
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Happy holidays everyone! Its been awhile since I've actually worked on bus but have been busy reading on here and trying to figure out placement of things in the bus. I haven't really worked on it much, because I didn't want to blow our christmas budget on the bus. I have torn down my old travel trailer to the frame and kept what little I could use in the bus. I also scored some deep cycle batteries that were only 2 yrs old and are still in good shape. My plans are to keep as much 12volt as possible. Smitty I read a couple links you posted in another thread and it was great info!
http://www.marxrv.com/12volt/12volt.htm
http://www.smartgauge.co.uk/batt_con.html
I still have a few questions I guess. I need to figure out what is a good power inverter and size I need,and charging system? I plan to run the battery insulator to charge off the engine while running, but what should I look at for a good battery charger when not running? I do plan on running a generator when need be, but hope to only use when running the air. I would say most of our camping will be 50/50 primative/campgrounds. The only AC I see setting the bus up for is the air, and a 35"lcd tv, surround sound, and maybe some sort of gaming system for the kids. I think I would like to keep the fride DC. If I have the money I would like to get an arb type fridge/freezer cooler. http://www.arbusa.com/Products/Fridges/20.aspx If I run out of money I was thinking about this http://www.amazon.com/Avanti-Supercondu ... B0028MOZI6 The arb would be great as I could use it for other times and not just in the bus. I had contemplated about the chest type freezer like Smitty did, but I'm thinking I am not going to have the space for it in the bus. I also have decided I don't want a lp fridge just because it would eliminate having to vent outside and one less hole in the bus to leak later.
Couple pics to share


Oh I forgot to mention I got the big brackets that mount a 45gal fuel tank to the frame rails. I was thinking they would make a great start for mounting the batteries under the bus. I figured I would use the 5 deep cycles batteries I got out of the 8.

Couple pics of the bus after paint. Just crappy cellphone pics though.



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Old 12-26-2010, 05:41 PM   #36
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I will get a closer number of watts when I get a chance. I remember reading in your thread Smitty about having a bank bigger then you solar output, so you where thinking of dropping a battery. Does the same thing apply here? I think your right on these batteries 100ah. So my hypothetical question is- say you have maybe a 10 amp draw on this 500ah bank would you really need a 50 amp charger to stay ahead? Just because you have a big bank and don't use the potential do you need that much charger? Would it be better to only use the size of battery bank you really need? Or have the larger bank? I helped my work recycle the batteries, so I got them for free.

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Has anyone just added another alternator to their bus just for charging the battery bank?

Smitty I really like the arb fridge, especially because I could use it in other vechicles. I like my beer on ice anyway , so need to clutter up a fridge for that. I just wish it wasn't so expensive. But I'm sure I'll find a way to get one.
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Old 12-26-2010, 06:56 PM   #37
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Nice score on the batteries... It does say 100AH right on them in the pic...
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Old 12-26-2010, 07:18 PM   #38
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A 1.7 CF fridge is very, very small. Go to Wal-Mart/wherever and look at their little dorm fridges and pay attention to the interiors of the different sizes. We are running a 3.2 CF under counter refrigerator. There are three of us living in the RV... (my freezer is 4.4 cf) I cannot put a full gallon jug of milk in the fridge (we use non-fat dry milk that I reconstitute in amounts as large as 1 quart... it lasts longer than regular milk). I am very limited in how much "leftovers" that the fridge can hold. I make a lasagna that is made with uncooked noodles and sits overnight in the fridge before baking. The 13X9 pan will not fit in the fridge with everything else. The inside dimensions are 16W X 21H X 10D (not counting the "door" area that you can't put anything in because the door shelf fits in that area when closed) and there are shelves in there too. If at all possible, go with a 4 CF fridge (we also have one of them). The difference between what we can put in the 4 Cf fridge and the 3 cf fridge is amazing... the extra 1 ft means many bottles/containers can stand up not lay down (and leak). Measure things like condiment containers, drink containers, a dozen eggs (I cut egg boxes into 6 packs as they fit better that way) and see if they will fit. We used to have a 1.7 cf fridge in our pop-up. We also camped for a week at a time and lived long term in it as well. During the summer, we would keep drinks a cooler simply because there wasn't enough room to store milk, plus eggs, sausage, meats, cheese and the like.

Rather than a 1.7 cf refrigerator, I would invest in a couple of Extreme/5 day coolers and freeze jugs of water at home added to a couple of bags of ice. Line the lids (interior) with Reflectix and that will make the ice last longer (mine are held in place with Velcro). Keep them in shade as well.


This is what we did with the lids of all our coolers. It will help hold ice for a longer time. This one is a Coleman 5 day cooler.


This igloo cube is our soda can cooler for the food cart. We have a water/ice slush that will freeze up the sodas during the day, even during the summer. We have the coldest sodas in town during the summer. Overnight, David has had to chip the ice off of the cans.

The pics are of our coolers that we use on the food cart. They are open/closed all day long. We often have ice the next morning (we buy ice daily Monday-Friday in the AM). On weekends they stay shut. Sodas tend to hold ice thru to Monday morning when David drains off the excess water to start all over again. Prechilled sodas help the ice last longer. Warm sodas will melt ice pretty fast.
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Old 12-27-2010, 05:36 PM   #39
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Thanks for the explanation Smitty. Thats what I was confused about. I will start to figure what I will actually use for watts. Also start looking into inverters with chargers. I think I woud like to look more serious at the pure sine wave also. So what do you think about adding a second alternator to the bus engine? Have you heard about anyone doing it to a bus? Seems like it wouldn't be to hard to acomplish.

Lorna, I agree the small dorm fridge would probably be to small. I'm really leaning to the arb at this point.
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Old 12-27-2010, 10:25 PM   #40
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Use care with an RV propane fridge. They can and will catch on fire. We saw an RV being towed off Flour Bluff that had the fridge area burnt to a crisp.
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