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Old 06-07-2012, 08:40 PM   #81
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I think I'll actually use 3 metal straps per tank,will cut them out of some 20 ga left over from the windows. The ribs will just box them in, today I pondered how I would have access to the tanks if the ribs support the weight. Thinking would be better to have a removable plate on the bottom as to be able to drop the tanks for whatever reason they might have to be dropped. Hoping to get some time this weekend to work the devils out.

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Old 06-08-2012, 09:10 PM   #82
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Got some of the tank area sorted out today. Installed the first rib section, 2" from here, 1/2" from there, you know that story, also got the second rib fitted.
While under the rear, I found my brake fluid leak, both sides , at the very least, new wheel cylinders and new rubber lines are in the future. Suzy says I should go ahead and amputate everything above the neck, on account of flesh eating bacteria.
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Old 06-08-2012, 09:24 PM   #83
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Time to start putting something new in!
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Old 06-09-2012, 11:22 AM   #84
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Got some of the tank area sorted out today. Installed the first rib section, 2" from here, 1/2" from there, you know that story, also got the second rib fitted.
While under the rear, I found my brake fluid leak, both sides , at the very least, new wheel cylinders and new rubber lines are in the future. Suzy says I should go ahead and amputate everything above the neck, on account of flesh eating bacteria.

I don't want to be an armchair engineer, but if those are 55 gallon drums, I don't think your bracing is strong enough. Your weight will roughly be 450 lb. when the tanks are full. If those bolts are just from the hardware store, they might sheer when you are bouncing down the freeway. Not trying to nitpick.
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Old 06-09-2012, 11:30 AM   #85
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i thought he was going to weld them after he test fit it first...
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Old 06-09-2012, 11:36 AM   #86
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I don't want to be an armchair engineer, but if those are 55 gallon drums, I don't think your bracing is strong enough. Your weight will roughly be 450 lb. when the tanks are full. If those bolts are just from the hardware store, they might sheer when you are bouncing down the freeway. Not trying to nitpick.
The tanks are 30 gal tanks, planning to hang them with three 2" straps cut from some 20 ga CRS each. The bolts are indeed from the hardware store, they are only temporary while I get everything mocked up, then I'm going to weld it all up. The framing won't support the tank weight, I'm trying to build some storage bins while protecting the tanks at the same time. Plan to cut the skirt at the rub rail and hinge it to access the storage. Still working out the details though.
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Old 06-09-2012, 04:35 PM   #87
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ha ATCC77 where Ga are u ? iam in northern GA,need to get together and shoot the bull and u can see my bus...
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Old 06-09-2012, 09:23 PM   #88
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Keith,
I am in Powder Springs, @20 miles west of atlanta and 8 miles noth of I-20. Would love to see your bus.

chev49 and crazycal,- I find that when building something from scratch, I tend to tweak things ALOT.Using these bolts allows me to make these adjustments/design changes easily and quickly, when your me, that's important. By the time I'm done this thing is going to be srong, not only will the framing be welded. but the sheetmetal will also be welded in place.
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I just wanted to make sure you didn't have any problems.
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Old 06-09-2012, 10:18 PM   #90
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No worries , Thanks for looking out.
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Old 06-10-2012, 02:46 PM   #91
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HEY! OL TRUNT, CHEV49, TANGO, ANY OF YOU BODY GUYS.... I NEED SOME ADVICE

I have an idea for the rear "fenders / wheel archs";
buses are pretty flat, boxy things, so I've been looking for flat donor fenders to use. so how about using some polished diamond tread plate like is on jeeps and old broncos? Thinking to cut some to fit similar to below , only I won't use painters tape to hold it on, that is clearly a duct tape job.I could cut my own radius, plus the old girl would have some flash.
Just thinking that this might not look so bad after being done by someone with a medium/low skill level such as myself.
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Old 06-10-2012, 02:55 PM   #92
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atcc77 --- are you thinking of running the diamond plate full length along the bottom or only around the rear wheels? I'm thinkin' full length would look pretty cool.
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Old 06-10-2012, 04:20 PM   #93
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as long as it clears the tires it should look very good if you round your outside corners a bit..
come to think of it, the last one ton dualie that i had, i took two 1950 (i think) stude starlight coupe rear window shelf pieces which the outside nicely fit inside the wheel well arch and all i had to do was weld up four tabs to hold it in place... that wont work for you of course, because your wheel arch isnt round.
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Old 06-10-2012, 05:38 PM   #94
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I have an idea for the rear "fenders / wheel archs";... only I won't use painters tape to hold it on, that is clearly a duct tape job.... Just thinking that this might not look so bad after being done by someone with a medium/low skill level such as myself.
May I suggest that you use the "Gorilla Tape" Duct tape. It's really "sticky". Let's not forget, in the immortal words of Red Green... "Spare the Duct Tape, Spoil the job."
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I like what the new wheel arch does for the lines but I am not sure I'd go with diamond plate. Are the original "fenders" plastic or fiberglass? If so, I would consider simply extending them as necessary rather than mixing and matching. If they are metal then just weld in what you need to achieve the look you want.
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Old 06-10-2012, 09:38 PM   #96
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Ol Trunt- the wheel openings are just stamped into the lower body skin, 16 ga I ,think. If you look at the profile pic you can see the offset difference between the lower skirt area and the top of the wheel arch (the problem area for me). My problem is that while I can do some welding,my skill level isn't good enough to make it look good. Thought I would at least run this idea up the flagpole. I do have some scraps around so I can practice before committing on the bus.
Tango- I initially thought to use it just on the 7' panel, BUT, you are correct sir, would look much better as a rockguard down the full length of the skirt and would be easier to cut doors for belly bins, could possibly do away with the bottom rub rail all together..
Chev49- I LOVE 40's and 50's studebaker pickup rear fenders, thought of using some on my next teardop project... if I could find them that is. If they would work on this bus I would be a happy man
Lorna- Red Green? REALLY? I wondered if I was his only fan... I won't tell anybody if you don't.

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Old 06-10-2012, 09:50 PM   #97
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Old 06-10-2012, 10:06 PM   #98
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... Lorna- Red Green? REALLY? I wondered if I was his only fan... I won't tell anybody if you don't.
I loved the "humdinger" car (two cars taped together with..... DUCT TAPE! And they drove it! Amazing. Thank you CBC.
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Old 06-11-2012, 08:34 PM   #99
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Thanks to the rain and a helper with a bad knee, I got to spend some bonus time in the Yonder today. My metal floors are RUSTY!!!, so I checked on the cost of new 16ga sheet metal -$57.00 per 4 x 8 sheet, need 5 of them; hmm, if I can keep the cost of tearing out the old to under $100.00 I should be ok, and I can also really clean up the underside - almost a " frame off" opportunity! Seems like a plan is coming together, I'll bet that floor will come right up so lets get started! ........
HOLY CRAP! this floor has officially kicked my ass today. I attacked it with a combination of grinder, air chisel, and floor chisel / 2# hammer. THERE HAS TO BE A BETTER WAY , I spent a quarter of the tear out budget on a wheel well and a very little bit of floor. I wonder if a torch would work?

Another problem, when I try to attach photos now, I get a red message that says " Sorry, the board attachment quota has been reached." WTF?
I'm sure there's a way around this as well.
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ha attc77 when u are up in ellijay come by and see it,let me know ill send u my number
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