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Old 10-23-2008, 07:53 PM   #1
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This Bus? Or That One?

Although im about to make payments on this blue IH, i was wondering if this '85 ford would be a better choice?


this one?




or this one?



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Old 10-23-2008, 09:18 PM   #2
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Re: This Bus? Or That One?

More details on both?
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Old 10-23-2008, 09:24 PM   #3
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More details on both?
old blue is a 1976 internation 345 , manual trans. , gas engine/ partialy convereted....toilet, black water tank, breaker box, sink, counter, table and chairs/ recepticles

second ..... '85 ford/tohmas body/ stick, diesel.....seats are gutted.....
im leaning more towards old blue....but the ford appears to be larger.... so im on the fence per say
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but yeah i like old blue
just dont know what the pros and cons are of each?
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Old 10-23-2008, 09:52 PM   #4
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Re: This Bus? Or That One?

Which diesel does the Ford have? I'm thinking that in '85 it could have an 8.2L Detroit (it might say GM on the valvecovers under that Ford hood ), a 3208 Cat, or a 6.6/7.8L Brazilian.
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Old 10-23-2008, 10:03 PM   #5
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Which diesel does the Ford have? I'm thinking that in '85 it could have an 8.2L Detroit (it might say GM on the valvecovers under that Ford hood ), a 3208 Cat, or a 6.6/7.8L Brazilian.

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Old 10-24-2008, 08:58 AM   #6
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Re: This Bus? Or That One?

i've never had a 8.2 liter diesel in a bus, but i have had other wimpy diesel engines in buses. I drove cross country with a guy with a gm gasser, i think like a 366 or something....anyhow, when he finally took the governor off of that thing his bus was a race car compared to any of my buses. I think gas will tend to give you better performance, higher top end speed, and a lot worse fuel economy. I usually got nearly double the mileage from my skoolie that he got from his....while i had an inefficient auto trans, and he had a manual 4 or 5 speed. His bus broke down several times in the few years we drove 5K miles round trip. His bus wasn't exactly cheap to fix, let me tell you! The diesel in my bus may have been more expensive to fix, but who knows, it never needed any work. while my top cruising speed was about 65, he got pulled over by the cops driving near 90mph in nevada.
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Re: This Bus? Or That One?

Does the international have a two speed rear end? Mine does which makes it accelerate very fast and cruise up any hill also I was able to raise the top speed by putting on 22.5" tires too.
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Re: This Bus? Or That One?

just get the one you like the most i like the blue one
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Re: This Bus? Or That One?

I think I would go for the Ford (more square footage). Although I am sure if the gasser dies it would be a lot cheaper to drop a new one in than for the 8.2 detroit.

lapeer: there is more to the fuel economy than gas vs diesel. 65mph vs 90mph with that much mass will quickly kill your mileage. If you keep the gassers governed they get OK mileage, but if you run with your foot through the firewall the M'sPG will drop precipitously. I would agree with you that if I were making 5K road trips, I would probably prefer the diesel.
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Re: This Bus? Or That One?


First of all, I would say buy neither. Much better to buy a newer fresh bus from a school district.
But of course, newer buses can cost several thousand. What are these guys asking? If it's a couple hundred bucks, then it might be worth a try.

Three things: Condition, condition and condition. Engine and tranny and tires and suspension and so forth. Then there is all that old conversion stuff in the International. Does it work? Will it continue to work? In short, I'm leery of somebody else's project that he gave up on.

Maybe I'm all wet. I'd just hate to see you spend any "real" money just to inherit somebody else's problems.

Also, what are you going to do with a bus? The intended use can make a lot of difference in what you can put up with and what you should not get into.
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