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Old 05-11-2019, 11:32 AM   #1
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Any advice on pulling and mounting new rubber myself? Got 4 new tires, two heavy duty truck tire irons, a 1" impact wrench a stem tool and some tire snot.
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Old 05-11-2019, 11:41 AM   #2
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Any advice on pulling and mounting new rubber myself? Got 4 new tires, two heavy duty truck tire irons, a 1" impact wrench a stem tool and some tire snot.
the tire shops have heavy duty cages to protect workers and equipment when they inflate truck/bus tires enough to set the bead - I've seen those cages bent into the shape of a soccer ball when the rim blew off the retainer or the tire exploded - when I see someone inflating a big tire without it being in a cage, I stand well back
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As much as I ***** about "professionals," and why you should DIY, I take passenger tires to a shop with a machine. I tried that once. Not wasting my time again. Truck tires? Whoa there, buddy!



And then there is balancing. Of course they might not balance them correctly, being they are "professionals", but how would you even begin to try to do that yourself?


I took an old dry-rotted 4◊4 tire off the rim I just happen to be looking for (that I found on the 4◊4 road hours from pavement). I used a zaw-saw. The metal cutting blade took a bit to cut through the hardened steel ring encased in the rubber at the edge, but after 20 minutes, I got it!


But if you figure that all out, more power to you. Good luck!
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I'll make a video. It can't be that hard.
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busting the bead off the rim can be one of the most difficult parts. many ways to do it, many ways that dont seem to work...... look up "drop center" take the tire off the rim where the drop is closer. I get a tire stuck on a rim once because I was not paying attention and started to take the tire off the side farther away from the drop. cost me hours fixing that one. I still change tires by hand, because I can, it seems to amaze others for various reasons, practice.

go buy the air chuck that clips on the valve stem. that way you dont have to stand there to air up the tire. If you cant cage the tire, bolt the wheel on bus fist, that will at least contain the wheel. do not stand over the tire when beading the wheel please dont do that. The horror stories about the guy lifted up into the roof and crushed are true.

you can balance by using balancing beads, I prefer rim weights. Both ways work.

watch those tires tools, when they flip back, you can loose teef, and slit lips, knots on your forehead..etc.... ask me how i know, go on, ask me..... wait, hold it. I know nothing, i see nothing, I tell everything....
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<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/uT7mYOxZUWo" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe>

https://youtu.be/uT7mYOxZUWo

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If you're talking about replacing 10r22.5 or 11r22.5 tubeless tires then I can tell you this: it's a breeze compared to smaller tires!

With the wheel laid down and deflated I was able jump up and down on the sidewall to break the bead. It took maybe 2 or 3 hops.

Prying the tire over the rim takes some effort, but still way it easier than a smaller tire.

When putting the new tire on you can mostly just employ the jumping routine again! A bit of dish soap does wonders.

Setting the bead can be a bit tricky. I had 2 tires that needed nothing but proper positioning and the air compressor to seat them.
For one tire I tried the ratchet strap method. It worked, but was slow. For the last three I built one of those air blaster things out of an old air compressor tank. It works wonders.

I was hesitant to do the job at first. Now I'm glad I did. I feel confident that I could do the job on the side of the road with the tools I usually carry with me
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And, yes, when seating the bead make sure you are using a clip-on air chuck and standing way far away! Maybe even chain the tire to a tree so it doesn't knock a plane outta the sky.
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I'll make a video. It can't be that hard.
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vaseline will make it go alot easier?
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https://youtu.be/uT7mYOxZUWo

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Old 05-11-2019, 07:46 PM   #13
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Hardest part is busting the bead
Next hardest part is seating the beads and having enough air to do it. Most home compressors donít.
And yes that video is very accurate as to what happens when the bead blows.

You can do it

Itís not hard it is all about technique. Not about muscles.

Just watch the that tire explosion video a few times.
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vaseline will make it go alot easier?
petroleum based lubricants with rubber causes the rubber to get funky. soap based: like Dr. Bronners liquid soap or Lithium grease at the least
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stupid me.... I was making it too difficult to post a youtube link. finally figured how overly simple it was...
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I saw a video once taken from a boat 2 miles offshore of an island. you see another boat in the bay near the shore take off fast heading out to sea, then within 1 minute the giant volcano that makes the island explodes -violently.
What was cool was the clouds MILES above the crater INSTANTLY part away from the mountaintop. It was a blue-sky day with high thin cirrus clouds...the kind that sit 20 miles high....
That same moment, the camera shakes.
Then you see the debris flying up into the sky, landing in the bay, and a mudslide down the side of the volcano, taking all the trees with it, hits the bay within 1 minute. The logs fill the bay and get shoved out to near where the escaping boat is in full throttle out to sea. The tital wave hits it, and it survives. Then the tital wave hits the boat with the camera.
I have seldom been so impressed.
I really wish I knew where that was or how to find that video.
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The vintage OSHA video is the scariest tire explosion. I hope my tires don't explode. However I think there would be no mobile truck tire service people left in the world if all these tires were exploding everywhere. I bet anyone can pull and mount a 22.5 tire and all this "Danger" talk is just a conspiracy to keep everyone going to the shop to get this work done.

https://youtu.be/17ILEqTzUxM
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Lug wrench, mineral spirits, two tire irons, core removal tool, and a torque wrench:



I'm with jazty and Seriousracer. You can do this.
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My original reply was based on my memory of old split ring rims. Those videos show why I would never attempt to change one of those myself, I've spent enough time in the hospital for awhile I hope. A one piece modern rim would be far less dangerous, but very labor intensive on the side of a 100* road
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The vintage OSHA video is the scariest tire explosion. I hope my tires don't explode. However I think there would be no mobile truck tire service people left in the world if all these tires were exploding everywhere. I bet anyone can pull and mount a 22.5 tire and all this "Danger" talk is just a conspiracy to keep everyone going to the shop to get this work done.

https://youtu.be/17ILEqTzUxM
I am an eye witness to the power that is released when a rim gives it up or a tire gives out - I'm not part of a conspiracy of anything - you may be a stranger that I'll never meet, but I shared my experience to perhaps spare your life, but go ahead and wear your tinfoil conspiracy hat and I wish you luck - you came to this forum seeking advice - don't insult the people that try to help
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